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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As someone who went to one of the "top five" for grad school, I would have to say they are all replaceable for undergrad.  God I loved flunking out all those wannabe pre-meds as a TA for Introductory Chemistry.  For all the difficulty getting into this school, the freshmen didn't seem that bright to me.[/quote]

Certainly, but the point of my post was about prestige/name recognition of the college, not the undergraduate student quality.  think everyone knows that Ivies and Stanford admit a bunch of undeserving legacy, donor, etc. kids who tend to make up the lower 25-50% of the admitted class's spectrum.[/quote]

What you're failing to acknowledge is that the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT get the best of the best. So even the somewhat under-qualified URMs, legacies, rich kids are the best of the best. And they have a nose for potential. Kushner is an idiot, was bribed into Harvard ... yet he's essentially de facto POTUS right now making $100M a year.

The snapchat billionaire kid Evan seems to have had some string pulled to get him into Stanford (rich dad). He's worth $5 billion. Carly Fiorina's dad obviously got her into Stanford ... yet she still became top exec at AT&T and then CEO of HP.

A verifiable dumb as a brick URM student-athlete from our neighborhood went to an HYPS. 10 years later he's making big bucks in some vague "community outreach" role at a Fortune 100 company.

Our oldest son graduated from an Ivy. His college girlfriend was an awful engineering student; totally clueless. She shamelessly cheated her way all through the major and had him (and other boys) literally do her work. She's now a tech exec in SV making millions a year.[/quote]
Depends on what you mean by 'best of the best'. Best of the best in terms of academic merit, definitely not. 
Best of the best in terms of getting success later in life? Sure, but its a closed feedback loop where them having rich parents gets them into top schools, having attended top schools gives them (unearned) plaudits and career climbing and networks which gives them top executive positions, which makes them successful and wealthy, etc. etc. [/quote]

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