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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The flood of white tears in this thread is amazing. Of all the problems minority kids face today, this is what you guys cry about.

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The disdain for white folks in this thread, who lose college seats to those less qualified, is amazing. I wonder if the bigota going on about "white trash" are black?

And being kept out of med school, a lifelong dream, so that a lesser scoring minority gets in instead of you is a big deal. [/quote]

That wasn't his seat - a more qualified white/Asian kid would have taken it if not the URM. WAY more qualified kids applying - don't blame it on the handful of spots for URMs. Next time study harder. 
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Again, complete denial. if there's one spot remaining, and the black kid with a 3.2 gets it and the white kid with a 3.8 is told to take a hike, the white kid DID lose to the black kid.

Why don't you take that same WGAF attitude and apply it to black kids who, if standards were equal, would have lost out to the white kid. I don't hear you telling HIM to study harder.

The AA policy as it now stands is most unfair to lower-income whites who, despite their disadvantage, manage to get close to a 4.0 average - and their lose  their spot in grad school to a middle-income black stident with a B+ average.

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waiting for AA in sports

look all liberals and URM apologists on here.  Make it an even playing field or shut the heck up[/quote]

As soon as life is an even playing field then we won't need AA. 
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That means white people giving  up their privileged bubbles, right?[/quote]
You mean the poor white kid, sleeping on the sofa in the living room because his parents couldn't afford a 2-bedroom apartment, and studying diligently for As while his less motivated and less intelligent classmates hung on out street corner, and knowing that his only chance to attain a middle-class life would be if he got an academic scholarship to college, and having to work part-time during the school year to help bring in money, should get out of his privileged bubble?

Yeah, right.
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Wow. Proud Boy material right here. 
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So tell me, oh ye liberal who calls everyone a racist.....what was possibly racist about my comment above? [b]It was taken from a real-life example. [/b]

You, OTOH, are resistant to acknowledging that the poor white kid deserves the chance he earned.

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“Real life example”? Sounded more like a steaming heap of racist stereotypes. 
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Yes,[b] real life - [/b]with the result of a life- changing experience for a hard-working, intelligent, and motivated poor white kid WHO DESERVED THAT CHANCE.

But you still haven't said what's racist in my post, or what supposed racist stereotypes you are reading into it. And be careful....your answer will reveal your own racism. So, do tell.

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Year? Location? Which street corner? How did you measure motivation and intelligence? 
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What's with all these questions, and what do they have to do with race?

But to answer, since I'm curious as to how you'll twist this around to make it racist: the year was 1940-something; the location NYC; the precise street corner, who knows....somewhere in a poor section of East New York. As far as measuring motivation, the boy who comes straight home to study until dinner rather than play stickball and do boyish pranks because he wants to ace his Regents exam and get to college is MORE MOTIVATED to get to college than the kids playing stickball and doing pranks. (Watch....the liberal will argue that point.) And as far as intelligence, the boy who took calculus and physics in high school while his classmates struggled through algebra and biology is more intelligent.

That impoverished boy DESERVES the chance he earned - to go to college and get to the middle-class - rather than having it taken away from him by someone with poorer grades, lower admission scores, and, quite possible, more family money. The fact that he DID get to college, and his hard work and scholastic achievements and sacrifice paid off, is precisely before it was before the days of AA. [b]Now if the AA policies were changed to being SES-based, he'd still get in.[/b] But as it stands now, he likely would have been "bumped" for a lower-achieving kid of the "correct" color.

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But what about the rich white kid who was also motivated and intelligent and only scored a tiny bit higher than the poor kid? Why should the poor kid steal the rich kid's spot? 
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Yes, the poor kid should get the leg up - and the same applies whether he's competng against an affluent white kid or an affluent black kid. Race should not matter. (It only seems to matter to leftists, who think blacks should get an advantage regardless of their financial circumstances.)

Because...that's what affirmative action should be all about: giving a leg up to disadvantaged kids who, without the benefit of affluent parents and superior schools, beat the odds to exceed academically - and thus would have a path to the middle class except for the fact that current AA policies give the advantage to the wealthy or even middle-income black kid.

It's time to abolish race-based AA. Blacks have been given preferential treatment over whites for two generations now, based strictly on skin color, and that's enough. It's time to go straight to an income-based system. For those black kids still enveloped in poverty, the "new" AA policy would still give them the advantage, based on SES.

And to liberals here who insist that a black child of middle-income, college-educated  parents should get an advantage over a poor white child with superior grades, shame on you. YOU are the ones who are racist, seeing everything through the prism of race and assuming, for some bigoted reason, that black = poor.

-OP

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Nope. Not time yet.

You can add a SES component but we are not ready to take out race as a consideration. 
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