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what we DO know is that nobody would be dead or in the ICU shot if he hadn't had a gun. [/quote]

No, we absolutely do NOT know that.   Who knows how long/how that man would have attacked the officer and his child?   Who knows what other customers might have done to try and jump in and "help?"   [/quote]

Exactly. We don’t know what would have happened. [/quote]

stop it. other countries with better gun laws have fewer gun deaths and lower homicide rates.  no gun, nobody gets shot.  situation gets de-escalated.

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And Emmanuel Aranda didn't need a gun to inflict serious damage on a 5 year old innocent boy when he threw him off a 3 story balcony in the Mall of America.  When someone with mental illness starts attacking an innocent child, I don't care about "de-escaulating" without a gun.   I care about stopping the assault on the child.   [b]If using a gun gets the assault STOPPED with minimal damage (the only ones hurt in this situation were the perpetrator and his enablers) that is success.[/b]  [/quote]

This right here.

If indeed the cop was assaulted, then the man who was shot was the perpetrator and not an innocent victim. [/quote]

It just depends on the specifics of the situation. Generally speaking, a fist fight should stay a fist fight. You better have a damn good reason for taking out your gun in that type of situation. Being a puzzy is not a good reason. Not that it is very relevant to this incident, but cops have become to dependent on tasers and freak out if they have to fight someone nowadays. [/quote]

Would you want to get into a fist fight with a massive 32 year old  man while holding your baby?   All while two other people (his parents) AlSO come charging at you?   Are there more of them?   How about if you don't know if this massive man or any of his accomplices have weapons?   How many other innocent people are also standing by that could possibly be hurt?
And you have the power to "de-escalate" the whole situation...with your gun.   You're really telling me you're going to keep "fist fighting" this guy, and his parents, and who knows who else he has with him--while holding your baby in one arm?[/quote]

[b]Oh of course. All these armchair quarterbacks would definitely have handled it 100% better. No question.

It’s gotten to the point where it’s actually funny to me to read these responses. As if ANY of these people should have ANY CLUE as to handle the situation. [/b][/quote]
Well, since a disabled man is dead and two elderly people are in critical condition and the police officer is fine, I am pretty sure that any member of the force would be looking at ways that this could have been handled better.[/quote]

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