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DP.  Not analogous.  In all your examples, the negative events were purely happenstance.  In the case of plantations, their express purpose was forcing human beings to toil as slaves for the enrichment of the plantation owners.[/quote]

Which, at the time, was perfectly legal, and had been for centuries...[/quote]

What does legality have to do with it?  It's a huge, immoral stain on our country's history, and I wouldn't want to give the appearance of celebrating that "bygone era."  People that do make themselves look either clueless or racist.[/quote]

At the time, slavery was considered neither illegal nor immoral. The claim that "it's a huge, immoral stain on our country's history," is [i]entirely retroactive[/i]. You are projecting today's values back on past centuries where they have no relevance or application. The idea that we, today, should feel guilty for things [i]we did not do[/i], and for which the actual perpetrators neither did [i]nor should[/i] (remember: neither illegal nor immoral) feel any guilt, is absurd and insane. Get over it.] [/b]My Mom who is not black was not allowed in white stores in Texas because of Jim Crow. My husband’s family Holocaust survivors, I guess his grandmother should get over it.  [b][Interesting you should mention that. My grandparents are Holocaust survivors. Do I think that any German born after 1945 has any guilt or owes me anything? NO, NO, NO. They wouldn't even owe my grandparents anything if they were still alive.][/b]

Must be nice to not be affected by racism. Talk about white privileged. [b][You know who else is privileged? Blacks who live in America today instead of in Africa.][/b]
A) you still benefit from it [b][No, I do not benefit from white privilege. Eff off. My family are all dirt-poor peasants. My parents were the first ones to go to college. Great grandparents were getting their butts kicked by Cossacks in the Russian Empire. ][/b] and B)you trot out the same ridiculous contextual morality every time somebody mentions something that God knows and anybody else knows Is wrong, WAS wrong, WILL ALWAYS be wrong. [b][You need to read some books. Slavery was not considered "wrong" before the early 1800s. It existed in every culture for thousands of years.][/b]
You need  Jesus, a conscience, and a better group of friends  than those fools you hang around with on Stormfront , not necessarily in that order. [b][Jesus didn't say a word against slavery. My conscience is totally clean of any guilt -- again, I did not own slaves, and bear ZERO responsibility for the acts of long-dead people. I don't think I'd be welcome on Stormfront, given my subhuman ancestry. I'm not the least bit interested in your efforts to guilt trip me, especially because such efforts are always the precursor of a money grab.][/b] [/quote][/quote]
 
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