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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For those who keep saying his son would have been admitted anyway, you should look at the statistics for Asian students who are accepted and rejected by Harvard. Having close to a 4.0 gpa and near-perfect SATs might guarantee acceptance for some ethnicities, but not for Asians. [/quote] *1000. I know of an Asian TJ grad with perfect gpa (4.0 unweighted which is extremely tough at TJ and probably top 1% and around 4.6 weighted), 2,390 SAT, Presidential Scholar nominee, NM Scholar, ton of leadership positions, lot of volunteering, extensive research, prestigious internship over the summer, TV show appearance, scholastic writing award, chemistry Olympiad finals, etc. etc. [b]and was rejected by Harvard due to no legacy, no connection, no donation, seeking financial aid (not full pay) etc.[/b] Completely rigged. [/quote] Wait a minute. How do you know it was due to that? [/quote] Because there were other grads who gained admissions (with significantly lower stats openly talking about their "connections" whether it was parents knowing the "right" people or people at Harvard etc.) with few URMs getting admitted as well. Basically, being an Asian American applicant with no hooks and seeking FA is the worst situation and it will be virtually impossible to gain admission even with better credentials than most admitted students.[/quote] Impossible to know it was due to insufficient connections. The class has 1900 kids. They're hand selected for something the school wants. Your description of the student shows many accomplishments but reeks of being "packaged" for college admissions purposes. Now tell us where this student did get in.[/quote] [b] The best response is "packaged"? A typical response if there is no legitimate response. The student was not packaged but worked hard, studied hard and contributed to the school life and the community life while exploring other interests aside from the school. [/b][/quote] As did several hundreds if not thousands with similar looking apps. [/quote] No. The difference is that the above applicant would have been admitted if the student was URM, legacy, athlete, with "connection", donated money. URMs who graduate in the bottom 1/3 of the TJ (forget being in the top 1%) routinely gets admitted to Ivys no problem. [/quote] You mention where they are in class standing as if that is relevant. All the matters is that Harvard thinks they are capable of doing the work. They got into and graduated from TJ, right? So clearly they can handle Harvard, just like most of the kids at TJ. So check that box and move to the next thing. They don't have to take the top ranked kids. You get that, right?[/quote] If so, Harvard should immediately stop taking any federal research money and any other federal money. You get that, right?[/quote] No. What if the kid at the bottom of the class is Asian too? Nothing in US law requires any school to rank people based on GPA and SAT. Nothing. They absolutely can admit the kid with the lowest GPA if they want him or her.[/quote] They may but they cannot discriminate on the basis of race in the admissions process as they are doing now.[/quote] Asians making up 25%...gonna be tough to prove discrimination.[/quote]
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