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DP.  Other posters have said that "differentiation" doesn't work, that advanced math and advanced language arts aren't.  [/quote]

Grouping the top 20 math kids together for math, and the top 20 language arts kids for language arts doesn't work, but shipping those same 20 kids to a center for self-contained classrooms does?  Ridiculous.  [/quote]

Did you read this thread from the beginning?  Or do you just disbelieve other posters?[/quote]

A couple posters saying that it doesn't work doesn't hold much water, especially since they haven't managed to back their viewpoints with anything other than conjecture and anecdata.  It sounds more like a bunch of people with bright average, non-gifted kids are desperate to retain their special status and are using any excuse as to why their kids needs simply can't be met without being completely separated from the masses.

The vast majority of AAP kids return to their base schools for high school and are mixed with the formerly gen ed kids.  Amazingly, it all works fine there.[/quote]

In high school there is still segregation.  The same group of kids tend to take IB or AP classes together.  Some previously gen ed kids join the group and now are a part of the group.  I think the real reason we are where we are today with the AAP divide is that some SJWs decided that tracking in lower grades is bad, so there is no open enrollment honors classes before middle school.  Parents of kids with academically advance kids then see AAP as a way to get their kids the differentiation they want (instead of once a week pull out) and do whatever it takes to get that.  Because of the way AAP is structured, it's all or nothing, and you can't place based on achievement (like you can in MS and HS).  Starting open enrollment honors in 3rd grade would avoid a lot of the issues, but alas, you'd have people steaming about that, ignoring the fact that AAP no longer serves only gifted kids and is way worse in its effect on segregating kids. [/quote]

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