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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^ Are you really arguing this point?  There's tons of research that has found that black students face challenges in the educational system.  For example, some data suggest that they are less likely to be recommended for G&T programs by white teachers, and are more likely to face harsh punishments.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/424707/

https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_581788e0e4b064e1b4b4070a/amp

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/03/21/292456211/black-preschoolers-far-more-likely-to-be-suspended

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so much garbage

The first study is inconclusive

The second study is from huffington post which is a partisan bs site basically the fox news of the left

The third study have you ever thought that black students are more disruptive because they come from more broken homes and poorer environments on average which is WHY they are suspended more

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PP here.  I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to respond, since I knew you'd move the goal posts, but here goes.  I'm going to respond for the benefit of others who may be curious.

Typically, these studies statistically adjust for things demographic factors, grades, etc. that might otherwise lead to spurious conclusions.  Take the first link, for example.  I looked up the original study, which uses nationally representative, longitudinal data on elementary students.  It finds (I've bolded key sections):

"We document that [b]even among students with high standardized test scores, Black students are less likely to be assigned to gifted services in both math and reading[/b], a pattern that persists when controlling for other background factors, such as health and socioeconomic status, and characteristics of classrooms and schools."

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332858415622175

Also, re: your speculation that the AA kids face harsher punishments because they have more behavioral problems, that's also not necessarily true.  Studies have shown that not only are black boys perceived as being older than they actually are relative to white boys, but they are also more likely to be viewed as culpable for crimes and dehumanized.  For example, here's a quote from the third link (again, bolding is mine):

"The students were also shown photographs alongside descriptions of various crimes and asked to assess the age and innocence of white, black or Latino boys ages 10 to 17. [b]The students overestimated the age of blacks by an average of 4.5 years and found them more culpable than whites or Latinos, particularly when the boys were matched with serious crimes, the study found. [/b]Researchers used questionnaires to assess the participants' prejudice and dehumanization of blacks. [b]They found that participants who implicitly associated blacks with apes thought the black children were older and less innocent."
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And here's the original research paper.

https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/psp-a0035663.pdf

I know that sort of finding might be tough to swallow, but to put it mildly, there's a lot going on here when it comes to education and underrepresented minority status in the U.S.

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P.S. I won't engage further with this PP, since I doubt this guy even has kids in DC schools.  But to wrap it up, I think a lot of educated AA parents share concerns with their white counterparts re: enrolling their kids in schools with low test scores.  But that's not the end of the story.  They're also worried about peer influences in a way that white parents don't given the shared experiences/culture among AA students. Also, there is real concern re: low teacher expectations and more frequent or harsher punishments--concerns backed up by empirical data in many cases.[/quote]

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