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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?[/quote] Look, troll, it's simple. 1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job. 2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance. 3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law. 4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require: a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance. That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?[/quote] I would like to add that this practice, which is law in sanctuary cities, was the police department policy in almost every American city until 2025. Why? For very obvious safety reasons. Police departments are primarily concerned with the safety of locals. If a victim or witness is afraid of being deported, they will not report crimes. Again, I repeat, this was the standard police department policy in almost every American city. Trump is the one trying to change things and make America unsafe.[/quote] Funny how y'all mock 'states rights' when its talk about Civil War but hump it here. LOL.[/quote] I don't think you read my post. I said it was POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY in 95% of American cities. Blue and red states. And it was the policy for the [i]safety[/i] of the citizens of each city. American police departments almost unanimously concluded that it was safer for the people the protect if they didn't ask about immigration status. [/quote] Safer for residents of apt complexes to let gang members live there and not ask questions about their immigration status? Not really. [/quote] You debate like a middle schooler. The logic of the policy has always been to focus on local crime, gang or other, committed by immigrants or citizens. If you connect local law enforcement and immigration enforcement, then victims are afraid to report crime. Witnesses are afraid to testify. It is obvious that Trump and Noem don't actually want to stop crime or they wouldn't have stopped all sorts of drug investigations and rerouted resources to detaining immigrants at their jobs and immigration court. If he cared about crime, he would not have given a full pardon to the former president of Honduras, convicted of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States and related firearms offenses. The big winners in this administration are the homegrown criminals. [/quote] There should be a focus on all crimes, regardless of who committed them. I'm no middle schooler and know from workingvwith them how fearful families and elderly individuals feel about living in lower priced housing with criminals (homegrown and undocumented immigrants--especially males) who have been released multiple times. They're afraid to walk or let their kids play outside. [/quote]
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