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^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.[/quote]
+1 This administration  also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them. 
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Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?[/quote]

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.[/quote]

The list of the deported includes a long list of criminal convictions, including violent crimes. Why do you call them non-criminals?[/quote]

Yes, there are criminals on the list. However, according to DHS's own statistic, over 75% of the people being detained have no criminal record.[/quote]

No criminal conviction is not the same as no criminal charges.  Also, people with final removal orders do not have criminal record.  Is it the Democrats' position that people should not be deported after they have been ordered removed by immigration court, so long as they have not committed a crime other than illegal entry?[/quote]

Democrats don't speak as a whole (unlike MAGA cult members) so I can't answer for all Democrats. Both Obama and Biden enforced removal orders but use [b]prioritized enforcement:[/b] ICE focused on criminals, recent border crossers, and security threats, while often deferring action against non-criminal, long-term residents.

Recent polls show that most Americans are pleased with the tighter control of the border--but do not support the current administration's every-single-illegal-in-the-country-must-be-removed-immediately approach.

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+1. Most Americans - at least the ones that respect the rule of law on which our country was built - also abhor an approach that is routinely gathering up innocent American citizens including children.

Miller has created incentives to arrest as many people as possible. Not just “illegals,” people. Arrest now and ask if there is justification later is deliberately violating the Constitution. [/quote]

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