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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY DUFFY WARNS USDOT MAY NEED TO CLOSE SOME AIRSPACE IF GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN CONTINUES

- reuters[/quote]

Time for Americans to actually experience a federal government shutdown. The Republicans are in charge and they need to govern which means working within the confines of reality.

Duffy should stop tweeting and see if he can locate Mike Johnson. [/quote] Americans have experienced it, and collectively just don’t seem to care. This is the risk in the D strategy, and is why Mike Johnson is happy to be MIA.[/quote]

Not sure how you think the government is actually shutdown when  thousands of Feds are still working. They’re not getting paid, but they are working.

[b]Seems the D strategy is working though.[/b] Thune is now bleating on about not getting rid of the filibuster because it would hurt his credibility. As if the GOP has any credibility at this point. In any event, it’s clear that the GOP was planning on pinning the OBBB disaster on the Dems. Instead the GOP is going to have to own it. [/quote]

Sorry, but as a lifelong Democrat, I completely disagree with what the party is doing and the characterization that it is "working." I want the subsidies extended. I'd like to have Medicare for all. But it is wrong to use a shutdown as political leverage. It was wrong when Ted Cruz did it to try to dismantle the ACA. It was wrong when Trump did it to get his border wall funded. And it is wrong to do it to get healthcare subsidies. Using federal employees, federal contractors, people who depend on federal benefits, the military, veterans, etc. as leverage to get something totally unrelated to a continuing resolution to fund the government is wrong. Forcing a shutdown because a 74 year old who should retire is afraid of being primaried is wrong. As one of the aforementioned groups, I'm sick and tired of being treated as a pawn. And the people you are dealing with (Trump) are lunatics and are not going to negotiate or agree to extending the subsidies. They relish in the government being shutdown. Congress should pass legislation that automatically funds a continuing resolution when Congress fails to pass a timely budget to end this madness once and for all. [/quote]

Yeah, no.  This is on Republicans.  They have a responsibility to negotiate a budget bill that can get sufficient votes.  They are not entitled to just demand what they want, ignoring the need to pass it.

All of us citizens are pawns, especially if we cede all power to the lawless.[/quote] Ds blame Rs, Rs blame Ds.

The one takeaway is that the days of a clean CR are over, for good. There will always be something that the minority party will to want to negotiate, and a CR is the way to move it front and center.

I am not saying this is good or bad, except for Feds.[/quote]

Oh hey, you know they could just pass an appropriations bill! I know this requires them to actually work instead of going to Great Gatsby parties or hustling money from donors. Like do your jobs Congress!![/quote] Google says 138 CRs over the last 28 years, I am sure some were D Congresses.

I am not trying to make it partisan, just trying to say the clean CR is history, for better or worse.[/quote]

Our political talent of the past was on  another level from where it is today. Enjoy the town hall discussion in the link below and compare the rhetoric between two bitter political rivals in 1995 to the clown show of leaders we've had in The White House since 2017 and Congress for the past 15 years. It's mind-boggling to see how awful our current leaders are communicating with each other and the public relative to such a short time ago.
https://youtu.be/1x_eyDddlYE?si=J8ZMM1IcCqe49vVp
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Can you imagine any combination of Trump, Biden, McConnell, Jeffries, Schumer, McCarthy, Johnson, Pelosi, and other recent Congressional leaders getting together for deep public discussions on current policy matters?? So sad[/quote]

I can because Pelosi passed an appropriations bill during the first Trump administration when she was leader of the House.[/quote]

Passed an appropriations bill is a very basic expectation of our Federal Government that deserves no applause. I can't imagine Pelosi and Trump being able to coherently discuss policy matters live and in person for 45 minutes at their advanced ages. That was the point[/quote]

BS Pelosi knows her shit.

Trump doesn't even know who he pardoned and why. Trump has how many failed businesses? Let's count them.

Trump University, Foundation, vodka, monopoly, Illegal Teen modeling agency, casinos, The plaza, Trump water, etc... I rest my case. [/quote]

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