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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It seems that Tim Walz’s only achievement that he can brag about is instituting a “free school meal” program. But is it really the big deal he’s making it out to be? Nope, and here’s why:

First off it’s nothing unusual. Every state has some kind of free and/or reduced meal program. Yes, including all the red states. Second, is that the media touts this as though every school in Minnesota has free lunch. This is patently false. Only schools with a certain percentage of students, who’s parents sign their kids up for free lunch are eligible to have their entire student body be included in the program. Third, he’s not doing it for the kids. He’s doing it for federal money.

This is how it all comes together. The reason all states have a free meal program of some kind is because part of the federal E-Rate program is a provision that allocates federal grant money to K-12 education based on the number of students who received free or reduced lunch. In fact, you will find the language “free and reduced lunch” in the language of every state law that mandates it. Why? Because that’s how the federal government defined it. Almost every government education grant program now uses this same language.

The reason Tim Walz and his Democrat buddies expanded it to every student in a school with a certain percentage of students below a given income level was to maximize the number of schools that received this federal funding. Because the schools themselves do not require parents to qualify for these programs by actually looking at their income or tax returns, anyone can sign up for it. That’s right. Even a parent with a double or triple six figure salary can sign their child up for free lunch as though they are poor.

This is why schools across the country beat the free lunch drum so loudly. It’s also why Tim Walz has so many kids on these programs. Now the federal money the schools receive is supposed to go to providing tools for teaching students, most of it never does. Over half of it is wasted on vanity projects and technology that never even makes it to the classroom. The rest is used for indoctrination programs like CRT and other such ilk. Leftist teacher’s unions are the by far the biggest single recipients, who then turn around and give the money back to democrats in the form of campaign contributions. It’s basically a big money laundering scam.

So how do you know all this? Because I worked in K-12 education for 10 years in the technology department of a large school district, and I wrote many of the grant proposals used by that district during that time. I saw how the money was raised, how the students who didn’t need free lunch were signed up, and I saw how the money was wasted. K-12 technology is a very small world. When you're part of the admin of those departments you meet people from all over the country. It works this way EVERYWHERE.

There’s nothing altruistic about Tim Walz, he’s just funneling federal money to his political party.[/quote]

See, here is one of the fundamental differences between the Republican party and the Democratic party.  The Republican party hates abuse of privileges and they look at a program like this and see that there are undeserving children getting a benefit, e.g. wealthier families getting free lunches when they don't qualify or need.  They don't care that being overly restricted might mean that there are some schools with small poor populations will not get the program and a handful of kids who truly need the program would not be able to get a free meal.  The losers are just consequences to them and not particularly important ones.

Democrats look at a program like this and want to find a way to guarantee that every child who needs it, the poor children that typically fall through the cracks are guaranteed to get the benefit.  They don't care if a few extra right kids get free meals they don't need as long as the poor ones get the meals.  If they have to give a few free meals out to wealthier families to ensure that all poor kids get meals, they are happy to make that concession to ensure that all deserving kids get the benefit.

Republicans want benefits to ONLY those who need and if the needed population does not qualify, then no plan.  Democrats want benefits to ALL who need and if a few others get benefits they are not entitled to, then they'll get them.

I like the Democratic option here better.[/quote]

Well....I hate to break it to you but that's socialism.

If you like that option so much better -- which is a totally socialist option -- then when it comes to eligibility for federal student financial aid for college education, a family's Expected Family Contribution (EFC) which is currently an index # used to determine eligibility AND the amount of federal student financial aid received based on how much money parents should no longer be a thing. So, children whose parents make $400K/year should be just as eligible and for the same amount of federal student financial aid as children whose parents make $100K/year???  It's the same principle based on common sense.

Same applies to food stamps....everyone should get food stamps?

Your Expected Family Contribution (EFC) is an index number used to determine your eligibility for federal student financial aid. 
So....when put my kids through college and because of my 
 So I don't qualify for free food stamps, but I should get them anyways? [/quote]

Actually not socialism. Look up the actual definition.

if that is "socialism" then so is the postal service, the military, the interstate highway system and so on.[/quote]

This drives me crazy. Socialism should not be thought of as a bad word. Is it simple when production, distribution, and exchange of a good is shared by the community.

Therefore, yes, "postal service, the military, the interstate highway system and so on." are indeed forms of socialism.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the concept of socialism. Like anything else, however, bad actors have given it a bad name. [/quote]
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Honey, no one is saying socialism is a bad word. Socialism is great. It worked wonderfully in So iet Union and we will happily vote for it in US this November. But I don’t think the candidates who are marxists or promote socialism should be denying it. They will be more popular if they will openly stand for it. There are a lot of fans of socialism in US and we can turn this country blue![/quote]

Yes - at least don't freaking deny it! Better yet..go ahead and rename it the Social(ist) Democratic Party. Because the socialist policies and programs are working out so well for Europe - there aren't any riots or protests and they are all one big happy family. [/quote]

Hur de hur de hur. MAGA wit![/quote]

Funny response considering I'm not a MAGA voter.  But I do call it like it is. I know European Socialist Policies and Programs very well. You cannot deny that the Democratic party is shifting towards a more "European" Democratic party with are all "socialist".  I mean it's not all bad -- there are many good "socialist" policies and programs in Europe but just don't go thinking it's all rainbows and unicorns. There's a reason my parents immigrated here from Europe.

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Certainly where healthcare is concerned, it is better for more people than the pre-ACA model or the Heritage Foundation ACA model.[/quote]

Well, I also know first-hand how universal healthcare works over there...again, it's not all rainbows and unicorns as certain countries do it better than others. Below is a great snapshot:

[url]https://www.healthcare-now.org/euhealthcare/[/url]

It's important to note the history of why US healthcare is privatized to begin with: [url]https://agentsync.io/blog/loa/the-history-of-health-insurance-past-present-and-future[/url] - scroll down to "The start of commercial health insurance and employer-sponsored health plans." - the current privatized healthcare model is a billion-dollar industry, admittedly out of control. But when you let anything out of control it is that much harder to reign it in so even with a Harris/Walz team and even with a balanced or even more blue Senate/Congress, I honestly don't see the US ever going to a full universal healthcare system. Perhaps forcing the costs down somehow and expanding Medicare/Medicaid. [/quote]

Perhaps some sort of more simplistic approach, increased Medicare Coverage and [i]Supplemental[/i] Medicaid for everyone (where the government Supplemental Medicaid for everyone would cover any co-payments and extraordinary health-related costs/surgeries)? But like school lunches this should not be based on how much money someone makes right? Or should it? Just because someone owns rental properties, they shouldn't have to sell them off to pay for extraordinary health-related costs, right?

Then comes the million-dollar question (or should I say $35 Trillion Dollar Question?) - how would this simplistic Supplemental[/i] Medicaid for everyone be funded??

For example, are you willing to have your income tax raised another 15-20%? are you willing to have your property taxes raised?
If yes...should that all go to healthcare?  What about free school lunches for all kids? How will that be funded?

And who qualifies?  Because is it fair then for those who do not pay any taxes in the US to reap the same benefits as those who do? Also, what about illegal aliens/asylum seekers? In several countries the universal healthcare is only available to citizens and permanent residents.

It's not an easy solution by far. Which is why we are at a standstill because even with the most simplistic idea of a Supplemental Medicaid, the [b]What, Where, When, Why, Who, and more importantly How[/b] is very complex.
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