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[quote=Anonymous][quote]The theory that the Sanskrit derived Indian languages, and some associated aspects of Indian culture, originated with an invasion, is still widely accepted in academia, and is not a racial theory.[/quote] Actually, it's not attributed to an invasion anymore. Series of migrations are a theory, but "invasions" have been debunked. The PP who brought it up was also definitely couching it in ethnic, cultural and religious terms simultaneously, it wasn't just that he was pointing out a tangential link to Indian Sanskrit. Furthermore, the existence of a link to Sanskrit outside India doesn't even figure in this argument about yoga, it just tries to dilute the idea that cultural appropriation exists. Vedic civilization and its inheritor, the Puranic Hinduism, created yoga. By the time Patanjali was writing the Yoga Sutras, he was a devotee of the Puranic God Shiva and the Vedic pantheon was already fading into the background of Hinduism. Sanskrit also developed [i]in India[/i]. If you are stubbornly trying to deny that a specific culture and religion gave birth to yoga because you think a pre-historic migration pattern proves that said culture and religion don't exist, I really can't help you. [quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would the members of Abrahamic religions allow their sacred symbols, artifacts, and figures such as the cross, Jesus, Mohammad, Allah, Torah be trashed without speaking up about it or even take some offense with it? [/quote] Yes. The entire Torah and all biblical Jewish figures, stories, texts, etc have been completely appropriated and reinterpreted (often radically, and sometimes in the service of antisemitism) by Christians of all types. To a lesser but still considerable degree, Jewish stories, figures, etc were appropriated and reinterpreted by Islam. Jewish stories, figures, etc have also been adapted by commercial popular culture. Some stories, figures and concepts from Christianity were appropriated and reinterpreted by Islam. Certain concepts of religious law, originating in Islam, were appropriated by early medieval Judaism. Approaches to mysticism, and mystical practices went back and forth among the three Abrahamic religions in the middle ages and afterward. [/quote] Tell me. If the entire world associated the Christian cross with the inverted, burning cross of the KKK, and Christians got verbally attacked and/or accused of supporting hate crimes for using the cross, would you still sit hear saying that cultural appropriation doesn't matter? This is what happened to the Hindu, Jain, Buddhist and Sikh swastika. I resent that my cultural symbol of good luck, peace and holiness has been stolen in the public consciousness by Nazis, and is still portrayed in media as a Nazi symbol, and still constantly appropriated by Neo-Nazis. I resent it very, very, very much. [quote]Wines etc, are protected not for cultural reasons, but for their commercial value. The protection involves regulation of commercial products. Telling someone what they can call their spiritual practices would violate our notion of civil liberties.[/quote] If you think comparing food to a highly organized and well-documented spiritual practice is at all appropriate, I can't take you seriously. It also means you didn't read the thread at all, because this has been discussed.[/quote]
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