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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Of course it matters if it is an ongoing pattern. They are Sunni Muslim extremists that want to wipe out all Shias as well. All the Muslims they attack are Shias.[/quote] That's not true. They kill plenty of Sunnis as well. Some of the ISIS guys aren't even very religious -- or at least don't know very much about Islam. To the extent that ISIS has a religious ideology -- they tend to be very flexible rather than doctrinaire -- they are Wahhabist. ISIS is proving very adept at exploiting underlying resentments. They aren't simply reading Quran verses and convincing people to launch attacks. Rather, they find someone who is pissed off at everything and provide an outlet for that anger. Right now we are in a vicious circle in which attacks like this increase anti-Islamism in the West and that, in turn, increases alienation among Muslims. I fear that none of our leaders have the foresight to break the cycle and most Americans wouldn't support such a strategy if one did. So, things will only get worse. [/quote] I see what you are saying. I hate being afraid and having to doubt people. The thing is though the LA shooter and Orlando were not alienated. That's what scary. They both had jobs etc... And still turned. Same with Brussels terrorists. Something is happening. I have Muslim friends and they are probably one of the nicest families in DC and have been here for a long time. [/quote] I think you are mistaking the appearance of normality with a lack of alienation. I don't know enough about either the LA or Orlando shootings, but I can guess a lot of what they experienced. They lived in a country in which anti-Muslim remarks are common, in which a major Presidential candidate has proposed banning the entry of Muslims, in which another Presidential candidate proposed specific surveillance of Muslim communities, whose government is bombing Muslims over over the place, whose Congress is relentlessly pro-Israel and where even supporting a boycott is considered anti-Semitic. We know that lots middle and lower class white folks are feeling tremendous amounts of resentment due to an array of issues that appear to be undermining their way of life. Imagine overlying all of that resentment with the additional issues of being Muslim? In this country we have Trump telling the white guys that he will look out for them. These alienated Muslims have some guy on the Internet telling them he has a way to address their anger. [/quote] Stop making excuses for these animals who, incidentally, just killed a bunch of children in Nice. Plenty of immigrants have felt resentment and alienation and have received far less in terms of monetary support and they haven't resorted to killing innocent people. If they have problem with living in the West and in the 21st century, maybe they should just stay in their own backwards countries. Nobody is begging them to come here. [/quote] Right. There are no criminals in any other immigrant community. :roll: [/quote] Sure, there are criminals but not terrorists inflicting mass casualties on the host population. [/quote]
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