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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The narrative that underlies the these Asian race bias lawsuits— that Asian Americans need higher SAT scores to get into elite schools — is powerful. But it is also deeply misleading. It feeds the myth that elite universities have required scores for applicants and that meeting these requirements should guarantee acceptance. In reality, in elite admissions, a high SAT score is generally a necessary but insufficient condition.

This myth is commonly believed by many, along with a persistent belief that a perfect or near perfect SAT score, along with the appropriate extracurricular activities, a top class ranking and great AP test scores can be a golden ticket to the college of one’s choice. Unfortunately, Ivies gets thousands of applications from students who meet this profile for its limited number of spots. Most will be rejected.

The biggest problem the Asian American groups suing on this issue will have is to prove that their application, which includes interviews, and teacher recommendations, among other factors, is superior in all aspects, to others who were accepted. They will also need to prove that there is a distinct pattern or trend that shows a negative impact to Asians. Simply citing a difference in SAT scores between AAs and Asians, is not going for cut it since it's only one of many factors in decision making.

This is hard news for a lot of hard working, most likely very well deserving Asian applicants. What saddens me most about this is that inequality has brought things to the point where you have rejected Asian groups, complaining about black enrollment in Ivies based on SAT scores, when AA representation is virtually immaterial in number. Back in the day, a student rejected from Yale could go to Fordham or UMD compete in the work world and potentially reach elite income status, just as well as the Yale grad. These days, with inequality the way it is, people feel in order to make it they MUST attend an elite school. To the point where they will sue on frivolous grounds to fight for a handful a slots they feel entitled to. Such desperation. If this is where we are now, I wonder what's going to happen when a large chuck of white collar and tech jobs go away due to automation and outsourcing. Wall st, Big Law and healthcare are replacing more staff with programming every year. What will affirmative action look like then?

On a separate note, I'm quite surprised, with all these feeling of bias in admissions, that Asian groups have not created their own colleges yet. They already have a blue print from ethnic groups that, you know, actually were racial discriminated against in admissions (Jews: Brandeis, Blacks: Howard, Morehouse, etc.).[/quote]

Indeed.  The jews created the University of Chicago just for this reason.  I personally think U. Chicago is a great University, better than HYP.[/quote]

Good point[/quote]

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