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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Given that the burka ban was debated, not on the grounds of security (which would have been silly), but on the grounds that wearing it "is against the values of the republic".
Given that, while a number of woman wearing it are forced by others to do so (and a ban will just result in them forced to stay trapped at home), a number of women have freely chosen to want to wear one.
Given that most women who want to wear one are not immigrants  (since the countries of emigration don't have that awful tradition) but French born citizen (so the argument "if don't love it, leave it" doesn't apply.

I think we can paraphrase  Voltaire and say, "I profoundly disagree and are deeply  offended by your wearing the burka, but will fight for your right to wear it."

Meanwhile,  France remains the only country in the West that has legislation telling people how they must or must not dress.[/quote]

Well, to be fair, you can't run naked through a theater or shopping mall in Western countries, either. Most public schools have some sort of dress code. Government employees have some sort of dress code, even agencies that have dress-down days. [/quote]

C'mon. Being naked in the street vs using some type of dress in the street is not comparable.  We are not talking of a student with a t-shirt saying "convert to x or go to eternal hell!" - we are talking about wearing a religious symbol like a cross, headscarf, or kippah.  And government employees in the us can, for instance, wear a kippah.[/quote]

But government employees in France can't wear a kippah, either. That's the point.

I don't think the US is all that relevant to Muslima's point about this french law. But FWIW, US government employees in the US [i]can[/i] wear a veil, and as a former US government worker I've seen many veils. I also saw memos telling us not to wear midriff-bearing shirts and tights to work, because those weren't in keeping with the workplace's values. But again, that's a different debate because the US has different laws.

The debate needs to go in one or two directions:
(1) Does DCUM think it's OK for France to ban public displays of[i] all [/i]religions in public places, as long as the laws are applied equally.
(2) Does the French law target Muslims more than other religions. I.e., is not veiling more of a burden on Muslim women than not wearing a kippah or cross is on other folks [/quote]

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