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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We have our scriptures - that's evidence enough for many. In fact, your posts about Horus and December 25th were a (failed, because yawn) effort to debunk this evidence.

Others have experienced miracles, and that's evidence to them.

But you just want to argue.

Whatever.[/quote]

That part about Horus and December 25th really got to you, didn't it?[/quote]

Really struck a nerve, huh, huh?  (As a previous PP has said of your earlier witty ripostes.)

Okay, so I actually bothered to do some digging around.

The ancient Egyptians did not celebrate Horus's birth on December 25.

The beginning of the Egyptian  year was at the end of June with the heliacal rising of Sirius.  This was an extremely important event in ancient Egypt because the rising of Sirius signaled the flooding of the Nile, on which all life in Egypt depended, beginning in upper Egypt in Aswan and progressing northward over the next two months.  Like most ancient peoples, the Egyptians had a lunar calendar, but tried to keep it consistent with the solar calendar by adding five days.  These were inserted at the beginning of the year in late June, and were celebrated as days on which the various deities were born.  One of these was Horus.

The idea of Horus being born on December 25, appears to have been propagated late last century, early this century by various conspiracy thinkers, who maintain that Christianity was actually developed two millenia ago by a group who put together all the various elements of Paganism practiced in the Roman Empire at the time to come up with a neo-Pagan mythology.  I am largely inferring here from the short bits I read, so some of the particulars may not be right.  In any case, a movie called Zeitgeist was made around 2003 that laid out this neo-Pagan Christian conspiracy.

One of the starring statements in the movie is the assertion that Horus was born on December 25 from a virgin (though Isis copulating with the golden phallus of Osiris hardly seems that), etc to more parallels with Jesus's life.  The assertions made in the movie and some writings that formed the basis for the movie, which can be found on the internet, do not hold up to scholarly scrutiny at all.  You will find ample critiques on the internet.

It seems atheist OP demands all sorts of proof from Christianity and yet gullibly swallows whole websites that are as laden with spurious scholarship as Zeitgeist.

Here's another example:  A central thesis of Zeitgeist and the neo-Pagan Christian conspiracy theorists is that Son of God=Sun of God.  Get it? The story of Jesus is actually a mythology of a Sun god.  But only in English, in which son and sun are hononyms, do these words look at all alike.  In none of the ancient languages spoken at the time Christianity arose (and that emphatically does not include Old English), do the words for son and sun bear any relationship with each other.  The Son of God=Sun of God reflects a child-like understanding of language, as well of mythology, religion, and theology.
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