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If you deem sexual autonomy as the only measure of expansion of women's rights, then kudos to you as you have made your point. However, most women, particularly Muslim women, do not measure their status by how many men they can sleep with. There are many other, more important factors to consider, as Professor Ahmed points out.

Once again, nice try in attempting to tarnish Islam. [/quote]
I think being in charge of your sexual decision is important, yes.  I also think the ability to select and divorce your husband at will is also very nice, and you must agree Islam imposed limits on women in this - for marriage, for requiring consent of guardian, and for divorce, for making women-initiated divorces dependent on the husband's or the judge's consent.   [/quote]

Islam did not take these two rights away![/quote]

Yes, it did. 
- A man can initiate a divorce by telling his wife "Talak, talak, talak", just repeating that one word three times, and she has to hit the road. That's "divorce at will" for sure!
- A woman can initiate a divorce, but she doesn't make the decision. Either her husband agrees to it or, if he doesn't agree, she asks a judge to make the decision. [/quote]
To be completely fair, no, she doesn't have to hit the road immediately.  There's the whole three months thing.

Also, different schools vary on the divorce procedure - I mean, none take it away, but some do make it more difficult for the man.  In Shia Islam, for instance, a man cannot issue irrevocable divorce on the spot.  It's only once and then they have to go to mediation, if that doesn't work, one more, and if THAT doesn't work, it's irrevocable.  Our Gulfie friends mitigate the threat of divorce at-will by setting ridiculous standards for dowries - one of my SIL's dowry was 50K and a fully furnished house.

You are correct on the woman thing, though.  Unless it's in the marriage contract that the woman reserves the right to divorce at will, there is no divorce at will for women comparable to that of men.  As Muhammad has allegedly said, "the right to divorce belongs to the one who holds the calf", i.e. the husband.

But women can totally put it in the marriage contract. [/quote]

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