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First, or maybe I should say again, please distinguish between real Islam and the practice of it. This is a mistake you make repeatedly.[/quote]
I don't believe I do.

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You repeatedly ask for evidence for various points, but disregard evidence of Muslim authorship or Muslim testimony or even Arab testimony. In your eyes, arabs and Muslims are inherently liars and their testimony is not to be trusted. But who do you expect will provide accounts of Arab history, if not the Arabs? Its like saying the Boston Tea Party never took place because you mistrust the Americans who were the only people who left accounts of it.[/quote]
That's a bad comparison. Not all Americans supported the Boston Tea Party.  I'm sure if you asked the British to write that account, it would have been very different.

Islam is a product at the marketplace of ideas.  Every product in the marketplace makes an effort, covert or overt, to make itself look better compared to its rivals. Look at the Tide detergent commercial that shows side-by-side how stains disappear to get an idea.

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Societies do not have to be monochrome in their treatment of women? You spent hundreds of pages in various Islam threads fighting to prove Islam opresses and mistreats women. Yet now you hold khadija as representative of how great Arab women had it. Which is it then? Islam oppressed women or despite Islam, many women grew to the ranks of successful businesswomen? [/quote]
Khadija achieved wealth and independence pre-Islam.  There is therefore zero contradiction between her status and treatment of women in Islam since Islam had nothing to do whatsoever with her position. I wonder why you conflate the two. Just for the sake of saying I contradicted myself? Should have picked a better example. That one sucks.

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This shows that you keep moving the goal posts. This is an agenda driven campaign, not a truth seeking campaign. You are looking for any angle to vilify Islam or disprove Muslims, but some of your viewpoints are in direct contradiction to other, previously expressed viewpoints.

And this is why media outlets were called, you exemplify the type of person anti Islam organizations tend to use to spread hate for political gain. No one else will study Islam so extensively to spew hate 24/7 using blogs with large audiences. No one will move the goal posts so often that they sometimes unwittingly end up even contradicting themselves at times, like you just did here.

Even if the investigative journalist can not find out the organization you work for, at minimum articles will be written about islamophobia using your posts. But I am hopeful they will determine the name of the group you work for, since a couple leaders of the Muslim communities will be assisting the writer in her assignment and they seem to have knowledge about this.

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There you are wagging your finger again, in your childish, helpless rage.  No one is afraid of the media or the leaders of the "Muslim communities". I'm afraid your hopes will be dashed. Behind the posts you find so objectionable is not one shadowy organization, but simply two or three educated kaffirahs. You're just mad that you didn't find an adoring audience here that you thought you would.  Muslims don't expect non-Muslims to know very much about Islam, and the self-styled dawwah-wallahs like you especially don't like to be contradicted with actual evidence.  Perhaps in your mind no one who studies Islam can avoid loving it. Well, it happens. And since Jeff isn't giving out IP addresses, I'm afraid you'll have to make do with our anonymity. [/quote]

Did Jeff say he wouldn't give out IP addresses or did he say he wouldn't give out IP addresses unless he learned that any one of you belonged to an islamophobe organization?

As much as you would like to picture me in a childish and helpless rage, it is simply not my way. I respond to blatant discrimination and islamophobia by simply using my resources. I contacted several Imams throughout the country who have a good relationship with various writers at well known media outlets. I also have contacted other writers directly. I also use interfaith organizations and American Islamic relations organization in the US and abroad.

As ugly as these islamophobic posts are, they are now extremely useful and may be published in articles about islamophobia throughout this country. So, no reason for rage here.

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