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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous]Muslima, how would you recommend Israel eliminate Hamas (or at least eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians) without any adverse effect on Gaza's civilian population?[/quote]
Why do you think Hamas needs to be eliminated?[/quote]

10:06 PP here - let's concentrate on my parenthetical.  How would you recommend Israel eliminate their ability to attack Israeli civilians?[/quote]

I can't focus on your parenthetical because I don't believe Israel has a right to eliminate Hamas. Who gave it that right?  The real question is , does Israel have the right to use force to maintain an illegal occupation and the answer is No
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Ok, let's say Israel doesn't have the right to eliminate Hamas.  How would you recommend Israel protect its citizens from the rockets Hamas fires?  From their other attacks?  [/quote]

Israel’s very posture is offensive, and it cannot claim to be engaging in “self-defense” against the very people whose land it has been illegaly occupying for decades. If Israel wants to protect their citizens, they need to end the occupation, siege , blockade ect.

[quote] [b]To personalize this for a moment, imagine a bully sitting on a smaller child, and every time someone objects to the fact that the bully is beating the smaller child with an iron rod, the bully exclaims, “Well, he tried to slap me, so I was forced to defend myself.” No, you can’t claim that you’re beating the smaller child with an iron rod in self-defense, especially when you can end the entire confrontation simply by getting off him[/b].[/quote][/quote]

So if Israel end the blockade of Gaza, there will never be another missile or attack on Israel and they will all live happily ever after? Does Israel get any sort of assurance or guarantee? Maybe a pinky swear?

What about from 2005-2007 when there was no blockade but there were many rockets?[/quote]

This has been debunked:

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Israel argues that its occupation of the Gaza Strip ended with the unilateral withdrawal of its settler population in 2005. It then declared the Gaza Strip to be "hostile territory" and declared war against its population. Neither the argument nor the statement is tenable. Despite removing 8,000 settlers and the military infrastructure that protected their illegal presence, Israel maintained effective control of the Gaza Strip and thus remains the occupying power as defined by Article 47 of the Hague Regulations. To date, Israel maintains control of the territory's air space, territorial waters, electromagnetic sphere, population registry and the movement of all goods and people.

Israel argues that the withdrawal from Gaza demonstrates that ending the occupation will not bring peace. Some have gone so far as to say that Palestinians squandered their opportunity to build heaven in order to build a terrorist haven instead. These arguments aim to obfuscate Israel's responsibilities in the Gaza Strip, as well as the West Bank. As Prime Minister Netanyahu once explained, Israel must ensure that it does not "get another Gaza in Judea and Samaria…. I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of theRiver Jordan."

Palestinians have yet to experience a day of self-governance. Israel immediately imposed a siege upon the Gaza Strip when Hamas won parliamentary elections in January 2006 and tightened it severely when Hamas routed Fatah in June 2007. The siege has created a "humanitarian catastrophe" in the Gaza Strip. Inhabitants will not be able to access clean water, electricity or tend to even the most urgent medical needs. The World Health Organization explains that the Gaza Strip will beunlivable by 2020. Not only did Israel not end its occupation, it has created a situation in which Palestinians cannot survive in the long-term.[/quote]

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