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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And then we have the birth tourist business for citizenship:
http://thestir.cafemom.com/pregnancy/147652/chinese_moms_birthing_anchor_babies

35 years ago I met people who came to birth.  Middle Eastern.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/19/alejandrina-gisselle-guzman-salazar-drug-lord-daughter_n_2333593.html

Now here is an interesting statistic.  Almost 1 in 5 teen births are the 2nd child [or more] for the teen mother in 2012.  http://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-health-topics/reproductive-health/teen-pregnancy/trends.html

If I had a magic wand I would provide better benefits to US citizens [non anchor babies], create jobs in areas with advanced training , provide incentives to bring manufacturing and tech etc back to USA.  Factories [light] and service dept's in places like DC.   Workplaces with daycare.

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The average TANF family has 1.7 children.  That does not sound as out of control as you would like to portray it.  That sounds less than the national average.[/quote]

Health and Human Services numbers are not mine.  [/quote]

Nevertheless I just quoted TANF data which comes from HHS.  So you can try to imply things with your teen birth statistic, but when we actually look at welfare families the data is what it is:  1.7.[/quote]

That's pretty close to the national average of 1.9. If you are on assistance, I would imagine you would want something close to 1 at the max.

there are many states that have fertility rates below that 1.7. [/quote]

First of all, average fertility includes people who have no children at all.  You have to compare families vs families.  Second, you falsely assume that family size is something decided after going on welfare.  By definition, anyone on TANF already has one or more children before they even start.  So if the average is 1.7, most of that is probably children born before going on in the first place and a minority having additional children.  Also, the average time is less than two years.  The typical family is not on TANF for their entire childbearing years.  [/quote]

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