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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many things can be true at once. But research has demonstrated that the internet, "smart"phones and now AI have had a pernicious effect on student learning, all of which has been compounded by covid; the fact that reading is no longer a habitual pastime for most students; and, driven by entitled snowplow parents, both rampant grade inflation and heavy regimentation of extracurriculars and time outside school. The result, as other profs already have mentioned in this thread, has been that students matriculating at college today have nowhere near the critical analytical skills with which they entered college thirty years ago and predictably are incapable of handling the workloads and meeting the academic standards that were prevalent then. [/quote]

If I was a T30, I would say due to this I would want to pull from rigorous privates more and more, the ones where they know there's a track record and do all they can to keep rigor. Ours is relentless to the point where parents and kids complain, until college admit season and kids doing well...[/quote]

Yes, PP. Let’s just write off the kids whose families can’t afford “rigorous privates” or who live in areas where no such schools are available. 🙄

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Most private are so so, just an observation, among those top smart kids in Olympic team rosters(Math, Physics, Chem, CS..), only 15-25% are from top privates even they are mile-ahead feeder to T5, T10 comparing to top public. [/quote]

That's because the Olympic kids are nearly all rich Asian immigrants doing private tutoring, also are (obviously) a tiny fraction of even most elite school admits [/quote]

This, a lot is spent on US Saturday cram schools or private tutors at a very young age through high school. Central and North NJ, for example, has many with summer camps for Math and other Olympiad, even science fairs. Filled with Asian only kids. Also, AoPS[/quote]

Only partially true -- cram school kids don't make it to the US IMO teams. This year's team is a mix of private school, public magnet and homeschooled kids, none of them have been "coached" at cram schools. My kid is friends with a bunch of these kids from the past couple of IMO teams and knows them pretty well.[/quote]

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