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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It really depends.

Harvard, Yale, Stanford - would be 100% pick
 Princeton - only if they are OK with very intense
 Columbia- only if they thrive in urban environments 
 Dartmouth - just no, would choose anything T50 over this one
 Brown- maybe depending on the kid, better for an artsy or humanities type kid
 Penn - wouldn’t necessarily choose it over another T20 but nothing objectionable about it
 Cornell- only if kid likes intense winters, intense academics[/quote]

DS got into both Princeton and Yale for Engineering.  Is it really a grind at Princeton?  I know it's more rigorous but had thought it had calmed from grade deflation days of the past.[/quote]

It seems the priority here is prestige or culture, not the actual strength of engineering, so just pick whichever one your DS likes more. If he had cared more about engineering academics, he would have applied to at least a dozen other schools better than these two (more than a dozen in the case of Yale). These two top elite Ivies could obviously set him up well for careers in management, consulting, finance, etc., but if he actually wants to become an engineer, he will likely get his first job easily with the P or Y name on his resume, then by his second job, he will need to catch up with guys from the other schools who are better engineers. Esp with AI taking over engineering jobs, ask your DS to think ahead and proactively seek out innovation in latest engineering applications that professors at a place like Princeton or Yale may not be the pioneers in (too theoretical). [/quote]

You have no idea what you are talking about. The smartest scientist minds go to phD in engineering or applied physics and ivies with established engineering such as Princeton Penn Cornell and yes Harvard and yale  send students every year to top phd programs as well as into top tech companies with real engineering jobs. It is the midling entry level engineering jobs that one can get from  average flagship that will be taken over by AI. The peers are not smart enough for the coursework in quantum mechanics, thermo, etc to be taught at the higher levels the top companies and phd want. 
It becomes obvious once your kid gets a couple of years in and realizes how different the summer options are for students from top schools. [b]There are several highly selective engineering summer internships that have a large over-representation of MIT stanford and the ivies with real engineering(HPPYCC).[/b] Of course they have an over-representation of UCB JHu and CMU kids too, add Rice and Duke.  It drops rapidly from there. These are highly technical jobs. There are PIs that openly state they select for specific levels schools and look for specific coursework on the transcript. [/quote]

^^ Sorry, quoting this![/quote]

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