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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1.	Oxford — avg 2.33

2.	Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. 	Durham — avg 4.33
	4. 	Imperial — avg 6.00
	5. 	Warwick — avg 8.00
	6.	Bath — avg 7.67
	7.	Loughborough — avg 10.00
	8.	UCL — avg 10.67
	9.	Lancaster — avg 11.33
	10.	Exeter — avg 14.00[/quote]

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1.	Oxford — 2.33
	2.	Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
	3.	Durham — 4.33
	4.	Imperial — 6.00
	5.	Bath — 7.67
	6.	Warwick — 8.00
	7.	Loughborough — 10.00
	8.	UCL — 10.67
	9.	Lancaster — 13.00
	10.	Bristol — 13.33
	11.	Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.[/quote]

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a[b] ton of money [/b](specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.[/quote]
Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects [/quote]

Not really, St. Andrews is $71,968 a year plus you have to add on airfare, which is a LOT over four years plus cost of family going over for graduation. https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/.  That's easily $320,000.  Your state flagship at $40K would be a far better investment. [/quote]

Oh god again. Nobody here but you are talking about state flagships. One of my kids at st andrews and i have never [b]in 3 yrs spent $72k. Stop the bs. Flights from Phily or NyC to Edi are basically  the same price as flighta accross the us. Besides, tuition is $44-45k dollars. If u live on campus you can do it cor $10-11k dollars. Stop spreading misinformation. $55k to $56k for tuition and accomodations this upcoming year.[/quote]

What is wrong with you? The PP’s link to St Andrews site adds up to precisely that! Who cares what you think you paid?  I’m going with what St. Andrews prints as COA.[/quote]

Considering im paying for one more yr there, i think i know a little more than you….

33,250 pounds for tuition. If DD was at a school hall like DRA she would pay 8,000 pounds….. do the math….. she actually shares an apt in town w 3 other girls and pays $650 a month…. So yes i know what im talking about.[/quote]

My kid is at St. Andrews.  We are paying more than the $71,128 listed right here for tuition and fees.  Airfare is additional  https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/.[/quote]

I dont believe you. Show me the numbers. The discussion here is about Tuition and Dorms. Unless your kid is studying medicine, there is no way you are paying $71k unless you are adding every little $ your kid spends on bubble gum to make this crap up.[/quote]

From St. Andrews admissions page:
Undergraduate estimated cost of attendance for 2025–2026.  $66,705 plus $5,623 equals $72,328

Item	GBP sterling	USD dollars
Tuition fees (actual tuition fees tables)	£29,093	$40,730
Catered residence fees or rent, utilities, food	£11,954	$16,735
Travel (based on two trips each year)	£2,000	$2,800
Computer equipment, books, etc.	£800	$1,200
Personal, living expenses for 38 weeks	£3,800	$5,320
Totals	£47,647	[b]$66,705[/b]
Important: The dollar value for every loan disbursement will be converted to sterling based on the exchange rate on the day that the funds are received by the University's bank.

Entrant students
If you are an entrant student, you are eligible to add the following charges to your cost of attendance, if you wish.

Item	GBP sterling	USD dollars
Visa	£524	$734
Immigration healthcare surcharge
(based on four years of study)	£3,492	$4,889
Totals	£4,016	[b]$5,623[/b]
Adjustments to the cost of attendance for additional needs
US Federal Law also permits the university to increase an individual cost of attendance for some additional costs, including, but not limited to:

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So the $71,000 isn’t just for tuition and fees? It includes computers, general living costs, catered residence, etc. [/quote]

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