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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?[/quote]

Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources.  They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked. [/quote]

Totally agree. Williams and Amherst can't compare with the ivy league because virtually all of them are much larger research institutions. [b]The academic resources of Princeton/Harvard/Cornell/Penn are light years ahead of Williams and Amherst.[/b][/quote]

And most of it has nothing to do with undergraduate study.[/quote]
I'd say having access to massive research institutes and facilities is pretty helpful in undergrad. DS does research at the school of Medicine and hasn't a day taken a course in the med school. Some people just use their resources better than others.[/quote]

Do R1 research universities have higher medical school acceptance rates than SLACs or higher percentages of students getting advanced degrees in STEM?  NO.[/quote]

Agree.

If you go outside the very very narrow range of HYS or WASP.  The second tier lacs (T5-T10) have much much better results than the second tier R1 research Us (Chicago WashU Emory Duke).  JHU is an exception in R1 Us, but you know JHU.  Your DC has to work 10x harder there.

Medical acceptance rate is one thing.  The more problematic issue is the weedout rate, which is invisible.
At liberal arts colleges the weedout rate is extremely low.  Same for HYS.

Once you go down to the second tier R1 research Us, the weedout rate is much higher.  Half of the incoming class at WashU want to pursue premed.  By sophomore, half of the premed kids are weeded out by Orgo.

In contrast, weed out rates at the second tier LACs like Wellesley, Haverford, Bowdoin, Barnard are much lower (near zero).[/quote]
Confident assertions with no source.[/quote]

that’s classic dunning kruger for you[/quote]

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