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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I love how people immediately shifted the racism from the person making the gross comment to the person who called out the gross comment.  MAGA are masters of projection.[/quote]

Because my original comment wasnt about race. It was about ugly people. If you think black people are ugly that's on you, and IS racist, because black people as a category are objectively not ugly. You'd have to be uncomfortable with and judgemental of black people to think that.

Also you don't get to say that black people are ugly and then claim that's what I really meant. Okay? All flavors welcome here. [/quote]

And now you’re putting words in my mouth.  I never, ever, not once, claimed that black people were ugly.  I interpreted YOU as saying that, because my MAGA relatives have said on several occasions they find black people objectively less attractive than white people, and I was concerned that you might be expressing a similar sentiment.  Since DEI includes black people and race was mainly what was being discussed at that point, saying “thank God I no longer have to look at ugly people (thanks to DEI)” implies that the category “ugly” includes black people.  It’s a reasonable interpretation.  That’s why I called it out.

All you had to do was say “no, that’s not what I meant” and explain what you actually meant.  By trying to twist it around and accuse me of racism for questioning what I saw as racism, you’re doing the same thing.  Questioning a thing isn’t the same as doing the thing.

Let’s agree that there are extremely attractive black people and they should be in ads.[/quote]

It sounds like you grew up around a lot of racist messages and you may want to examine what that's done to your view of black people.  Nothing in my statement, or the context, would have pointed to black people. I could have meant trans, enbies, fat people- literally any category, and you went immediately to black, which isn't a logical progression at all. What I meant was ugly people.  Ugly ones. I shouldn't need to further clarify because we all understand what's attractive and what's repulsive. But if I were a black person reading this, I'd be horrified that someone immediately equated black with ugly, and you should really think about that. In your quest to demonize maga, you said something UGLY. [/quote]

Demonizing ugly and disabled people and saying they don’t belong in ads is equally gross, and doesn’t exactly help with your case for being superior and enlightened.  You need to examine why you have these attitudes, and why people might be quick to see racism in MAGA comments about DEI.  For example, Pete Hegseth’s DoD scrubbed all mention of black, female, and Latino servicepeople’s contributions from the Arlington Cemetary website, but left white male content in place.  Care to explain that?[/quote]

I never said I had an issue with disabled people. I said I don't want to look at colostomy bags. FWIW, I don't want to see Sydney Sweeney taking a crap either, but still think she's a good model.

You're illustrating exactly why wokeness is dying. It should go without saying that people don't want to look at poop bags while shopping for jeans. They could have done the NORMAL thing and hidden the bag behind the model or edited it out. It's this- the insistence that to accept people we must also look at photos of their poop, their cellulite, their unflattering angles-- and pretend that its just like Kendall Jenner. GTFO, no its not. And you try to bully people into submission with this crap. [/quote]

Didn’t you just tell me a few posts ago not to look at it if I don’t like it?

Nobody is insisting that you find poop and cellulite beautiful.  The point is representation. The ad maker’s intent was to raise awareness and to inspire other ostomy patients to envision a life lived with joy and no fear. The poop isn’t even visible, just the empty bag, and the model is stunning (if you’re talking about the Aerie lingerie campaign).[/quote]

No, that wasn't me.  And yes, the colostomy model was stunning and there was no reason to show her colostomy bag. They didnt make Sweeney pose with her toilet. You're being intentionally obtuse. [/quote]

I just literally explained the ad maker’s intention.  You’re the one being obtuse by focusing on poop.  Which isn’t even in the ad.[/quote]

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