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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Isn't he back home[/quote] No, cutie, he isn't.[/quote] DP. Yes he is. He is a citizen of El Salvador, currently residing in…… wait for it…. El Salvador. [/quote] I wish more of you understood the constitution. Maybe read 20 minutes a night. Understand what a group of immigrants wrote in 1787, one of the most stable constitutions in modern history. This administration has shown how important it is. [/quote] I do understand the constitution. If he was a US Citizen, he’d have rights under it. He’s not, his bid for asylum was denied. [/quote] Stop parroting bullshit. It’s not difficult to read the Bill of Rights to see which rights are for citizens, and which rights are for everyone on US soil. If you’re having trouble understanding the definition of “person,” you could also read the Supreme Court decision on this from last week. 9-0 said these non citizens have due process rights. [/quote] Not really full rights are for citizens the other people are subjective, however this man is not on us soil so there are no US rights for him even if illegals have any [/quote] He was erroneously removed from US soil. Let's bring him here to US soil and then we can debate which rights he gets and which he doesn't. [/quote] He wouldn't qualify to come back to the US as phoney asylum was removed from countries like El Salvador which have the safest crime rates after the crack down on gangs. The idea someone should get asylum because of local crime is wild.[/quote] The idea that you can avoid due process by sneaking someone over the border is wild. Constitution rights can be annoying. That doesn't mean you get to skip the ones you don't like, though. [/quote] As a Citizen of El Salvador, what rights does he have under the US Constitution? What rights do YOU have in El Salvador under their constitution? [/quote] Non-citizens have rights under our US Constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled on this many, many times. https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/constitutional-rights-noncitizens/ [quote]Should a noncitizen be charged with a crime, he has exactly the same Fifth and Sixth Amendment procedural rights as a citizen, including the right to a jury trial, the right to counsel, and protection against self-incrimination. If convicted, the Eighth Amendment prevents the government from subjecting aliens to “cruel and unusual punishment” in exactly the same ways as it does with citizens.[/quote] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-have <- this one is good in that it reminds us all that the US Constitution states "people" and "persons" when describing rights, it does not say "US citizens". [/quote] Correct, IF they are currently on US soil, which he is not[/quote] because he was sent away illegally without due process, so it is incumbent upon the administration to get him back and either release him, or given the the due process he is afforded under the Constitution. Anything short of that voids the Constitution as a guiding principle for our republic.[b][/quote] I agree on all of those points, and always have. My point was (and still is) he is currently in his home country, we do not have the authority to bring him back here. His country can send him if they want, and they are refusing. His country can release him, and they haven't, so at this point, what is the plan? Do we have the authority to grab a citizen of a country FROM that country (especially if they are not charged with a crime)? Does Italy have the authority to come to the USA and take Amanda Knox back to Italy? How is this different? He should not have been deported, but now that he has been, he is under the jurisdiction of El Salvador. [/quote] El Salvador is not refusing to send him back. President Trump is refusing to ask them to send him back.[/quote]
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