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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Feels like there is a market for algorithm-based consulting to provide more certainty in helping to make the list. However, my guess is that enrollment management consultants probably sign some sort of contract preventing them from using proprietary info, an anti-compete clause or similar. Sorry, too much coffee this morning.[/quote] I think the key problem is that the admissions standards at any given school are a black box, where you don't know in great detail precisely how decisions are made. Colleges COULD release these data, but that would a) lead to applicants trying to game the system; and b) probably reduce the number of applicants, since it would be clearer what factors wouldn't lead to admission. Colleges obviously want more applicants. With colleges receiving so many applications today, there HAS to be a score or algorithm-based method for sorting them. The idea that each of the 20,000 applicants has an AO looking into their soul just isn't practical. Knowing the true break points -- below this SAT/GPA you're not getting in, above so-and-so level and you're basically a lock, and in-between you're a maybe based on other factors -- would help a lot of kids. The Harvard lawsuit didn't provide more detail on how the sausage is made. But there's still not a lot of really useful data out there. For instance, simply knowing the average test scores of BOTH admitted and denied applicants would be useful to know, and that's an easy stat for them to produce. [/quote][/quote] That's true. In the past, even knowing the enrolled scores was helpful until test optional made every 4.0 kid think they had a chance. I think the current season is the first year back to tests-required for Harvard, though the enrolled score ranges for fall 2025 freshman will not be released by Harvard until around May 2026 when they post their 2025-26 Common Data set. And of course that's just Harvard along with a handful of other top schools that have returned to requiring scores. Many probably won't, at least not for another few years, as they hunt both app numbers and try to find URMs.[/quote]
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