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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What’s the point of going to college when they can’t get a job? DS did his degree in microbiology. Hasn’t found a job in his field even though he applied to 100’s of positions. The same is true with his classmates. There are those who went to grad school. The others are working minimum wage jobs that don’t require any degree. DS is now attending a trade school to make decent money. [/quote] How is this possible? Is he trying to get a job in remote Alaska? There are so many unfilled jobs out there.[/quote] There aren't that many open jobs in the sciences, especially for white and Asian males who have to stand behind less qualified women and DEI hires when applying.[/quote] That’s utter BS. As a bench scientist who graduated from undergrad 25 years ago, the job market in biological sciences for people with only undergrad degrees has *always* been crappy. Some find jobs in industry, but the vast majority go on to grad school, advanced degrees in medicine, nursing, etc., or take on very low-paid jobs for a few years to prepare for getting a graduate degree. Getting a biology or microbiology degree has never been the path to an easy career and to get through college without realizing is really naive- you’d have to have never talked to a single advisor or professor to not realize how few “S” jobs are out there for people with only a STEM undergrad degree. [/quote] 100%%%%% I was making 18k a year with my Biology B.S. in the 90s. A lab that did work for the NIH. I couldn't get hire anywhere. The Feds either. I had to go to graduate school and was then able to find work after that. Luckily, I had my graduate degree paid by a teaching stipend. Strict biological sciences or undergrad marine bio, etc. is very hard to find work.[/quote] Yes, agree with the above two posters. I was making $21k/year in a lab at NIH. Also went to graduate school (fully funded thankfully through training grants) and am now a principle investigator. There have never been high-paying jobs for biologists with just a B.S. unless the candidate had years of experience and unique expertise. If the original poster's son is applying to 100s of jobs, he's either applying for jobs that he's wildly unqualified for, or he's applying for 100s of entry-level positions meant for those that are working for 1-2 years before heading to graduate school. If it is the latter and he isn't being offered any positions, I will bet real money that the problem is him and not DEI.[/quote]
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