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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The UCs have gotten the most flak but it is pretty easy to find issue with any mega large state school. Take UFlorida. [b]They don’t even guarantee on campus housing to freshman and offer a number of classes, including core business major classes, as online classes.[/b] The school actually offers a program to kids not offered regular admission where the entire first year of classes. The big public classes do a decent job of educating at ton of in state at a relatively low price, Florida schools are often free to students with strong grades. But there are trade offs that often make the oos price unpalatable to some families. I personally am not aware of similar complaints about Michigan other than it is difficult to be admitted to certain popular majors. Unlike the others, Michigan has a very large percentage oos students so perhaps they have the money and local cost of living that prevents some of these issues.[/quote] It's hard to believe OOS parents would opt to pay for this type of 'education' if you can even call it that. We all lived through online schooling during Covid. We all KNOW it is not comparable to being in class with peers. My DC goes to a private and while recorded sessions are an option to view later, Every. Single. Class. has been in person, and taught by a professor, never once in three years has it been a TA. [/quote] What is the size of the school where your kid goes? [b]Where do they attend that they don’t have TAs? Name the school. [/b] Some kids need a lot of hand holding and personal attention. Everyone learns differently. Some folks prefer in person, some prefer online, independent book based learning. Some prefer independent research with little instruction to learn. To each his/her own. However, just because you prefer in person, doesn’t mean it’s right for everyone. That said, it is NOT just an OOS issue. IMO. - It is a large university issue. [b]Large private schools use TAs and large lecture formats too[/b]. Johns Hopkins has lecture classes of 400+ students and that typically meet 1x week with TAs for discussion. [/quote] Not all of them. USC is pretty large. Professors teach every single class. I made the earlier comment btw not to indicate that it is an OOS issue, but that it is a large public university issue as evidenced by the many comments on this thread of several public universities struggling with their resources, and as that is the case, I do not comprehend why any parent would choose to pay elevated OOS tuition rates (in some cases approach private school tuition rates) for such an experience. [/quote]If you Google, you'll see that USC indeed has lecturers and adjuncts who teach classes. They're not all taught by professors. USC also has teaching assistants, just like every other university. Google is your friend.[/quote] Northwestern’s entire Business Institutions minor is taught by adjuncts….[/quote] Makes sense. They probably have MBAs and a dozens+ years of industry experience. How is this related to the overcrowding and over-enrollment topic though? [/quote]
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