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You nailed it, but [b]these posters are so married to selling this false narrative of decline that they refuse to look at any evidence[/b]. [/quote]

you are gaslighting only yourself.

We used to be #1 in the state, now #3 in the state.  You can look at the graphs here and see our decline in last 10 years.  Sure, our W schools may have 90% [b]proficiency math/reading rates, but countywide the rates are 27% and 45%.  You [/b]okay with those numbers?
Nationwide, we are ranked #141 by county.  The same rating as Carroll County.  There are 5 counties in West Virginia ranked better than us.  No more making fun of WV schools.

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-district/2400480-school-district

If graduation rates are increasing, it is because we lowered our standards for it. 
You set the bar low, you only get low output.  The tech industry figured that out 10-15 years ago, that's why they left all those now vacant buildings along 270.  That, and the fact that the other side of the river was more business friendly.

Personally I think the start of the fall came way back on Weast and that terrible math that my kids had to live through.  12 years after him (in theory his first year of graduates) is when you see those scores fall.

Now grant you, the MCPS system as a whole has lots to offer, but it means nothing when the majority of our students are not learning.

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These are the MCAP scores. The state average is 19% and 36% respectively.  [/quote]

And this data is old.  The most recent data is 46.5% and 55.3%.  And everyone has acknowledged that those scores aren’t good enough, despite the improvement.[/quote]

MCAP is a new test that has questionable merit. Since it's new and used in MD only we can only compare MCAP scores to earlier years it was given. This indicates a marked improvement. and MCPS is doing better than anyplace in the state. So it seems like MCPS isn't really a mess after all.[/quote]

Ah, the old test is not valid argument…[/quote]

Agree if they were using the PARC we could make a valid comparison but MCAP seems to have real issues still.[/quote]

Yet no one has told us what the issues are with the test.[/quote]

It tests standards, not the taught curriculum. That’s the main problem. The test scores mirror parental income just like every other standardized test. [/quote]

Help me understand how testing for standards is a problem?  MSDE set education standards for the entire state. It’s up to district and their personnel to learn and understand the standards, choose appropriate curriculum, pedagogy, resources, strategies to teach students. Ensure what’s delivered and the learning meets or exceeds the standards.  Then MCAP is taken for the state to test said learning.

Am I not understanding something?

I could see if someone said some of the standards are not appropriate for a particular grade, but I’m missing why testing for true standards is a problem.
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Just think. You are a middle schooler and you spent the year in science, social studies, and English covering the following topics- the Civil War, Greek myths, astronomy, and a unit on modern poetry. Instead of being tested on those topics, you are given random reading passages on acid rain, the Vietnam War era, and sea turtles. You might know something about those topics or you might not. If you don't, you won't do well on the test. These tests test background knowledge, not the taught curriculum. Who doesn't do well on tests of background knowledge? Most poor students. At least when I went to school, I was tested on what I was taught.[/quote]

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