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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think liberal democracies are favored around the world but malevolent people with enough money and power have pushed false or misleading narratives in a way that support the rest of your narrative.[/quote]

No.  What is favored around the world is power and that means dictatorships or similar.  The exception to that has been the US.  We have been the beacon of freedom.  After WWII we imposed the world order on most of the globe and confronted those that did not agree.

The norm is to injustice, war, and the like.  We are not the norm or at least we have not been.  [/quote]
The United States has been a beacon of freedom.  There’s a lot hypocrisy in that statement.  Usually the Americans claim this while bombing innocents then reimpose dictators.  Oh and then when the natives fight back, the Americans abandon those who worked with them and they retreat.[/quote]

As opposed to what?

The English, Belgians, French and others did the same
The Soviets and before them, the Russian Empire, and now the Russian Federation did the same
The CCP did the same (Korea, Vietnam, etc)
The Ottomans did the same
The Muslim caliphates that spread Islam did the same
And so many others did the same

But only America is to be condemned... And many of the people condemning the US the harshest at the same time glorify Russia or China or others, while nattering on about "anti-colonialism" - talk about hypocrisy.[/quote]

I think the point is the US’s hypocrisy. I don’t think the English, French or Belgians claimed they were bringing democracy or freedom to countries they exploited and oppressed. The US wasn’t a beacon of freedom for many decades. Its sponsorship of corrupt regimes and support for military coups was all about countering Soviet influence and protecting US interests. In terms of comparisons, the US has invaded two countries in the last 25 years while China has invaded none and Russia has invaded one. Don’t get me wrong - I’m no fan of either country but let’s not pretend they have a worse track record. [/quote]

Ok...I still don't feel bad about the U.S. 
I do not think we are a farce. I do not think China and Russia are great, they have worse track records than the U.S.
I am not hopeless, seeking the U.S. to fall, calling it a failed experiment.
If the U.S. feels the need to intervene in the world to thwart Russia or China in a particular way, that is fine with me.
Your posts have not changed my mind on any of this, sorry I am not able to help you meet your quota in your Russian or Chinese influence op.[/quote]
Actually when the Americans should have been countering the Chinese and Russians during the first two decades of this century they were engaged in illegal and immoral wars built on lies, all the while trying to bomb their hundreds of thousands of innocent victims into embracing democracy.  Hearts and minds!  
And the Americans were defeated because these wars were fundamentally unjust acts of terror.[/quote]

Meh. America also built hospitals and schools. America is responsible for a lot of women getting an education. 
Not sad we left. Not interested in the decades it would take to pull some countries out of the Stone Age. We can make the horse drink. [/quote]

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