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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If we are going to just keep talking about the 1960s and the 1850s and keep using that baggage of the past rather than talking about the now and the future then there never is a solution or path forward.

I think the example of Barack Obama that was brought up is indeed valid and relevant and perfectly illustrates the problem of internal baggage, as the only thing different between him and any other AA is what's on the inside, it's NOT what's on the outside as other posters keep saying.  [b]There are plenty of AAs on these forums with G&T and college-bound students[/b] who could follow his path.[/quote]

Yes, and some of those folks live in SE DC.

I don't agree with the rest of your post, but I truly wish more understood and agreed with this. The issue is that so many people still think of/reference Blacks en masse and in a negative way -- if there are Blacks who do well, they are not representative of the norm. Why not? Really, why not? Because the media doesn't regularly do pieces on Blacks who are doing well, or whites who are doing poorly, so many have the idea and express themselves in ways that indicate all Blacks are decrepit and whites do not have the same issues. Two inescapable facts:

1. Whites collectively control the wealth and political power in the United States
2. Whites gotand retained that wealth and political power in large part through slavery and subsequent laws and societal practices that kept Blacks from achieving equality.

Beyond that we're all human, some doing well, some not, some intelligent, some not, some availing themselves of advantages, some not.

The issue I see is that so many whites continue to gripe and complain about any opportunities given to Black society and try to separate themselves from AAs; whites seem particularly cognizant of and offended by any ills in Black society, while denying any context/culpability. That this is considered an acceptable attitude in the majority of white society is astounding to me.

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So you would prefer that whites be condescending and pity Blacks rather than see them as responsible fully-functioning human beings with self determination?[/quote]

No, hell no..

The whole idea of where society needs to be is that everyone be those responsible, fully functioning human beings with self determination.

As above, the difference these days is on the inside, not on the outside.  Nobody held Barack Obama back.  He was taught to study, work hard, and to set his aims high, follow his dreams and actively and aggressively work toward them.  Though no doubt and no denying there are still racist pigs out there here and there, they are a dying breed and overall the state of current times is such that white society was not at all any meaningful or significant barrier to Obama's success just as would be the situation for any rising young AA student now.  What Obama was NOT taught is the negativity that is evident from a handful of posters here, negativity which is corrosive and self-defeating, which some members of the AA community still unfortunately teach their children.[/quote]

Obama has not EXPERIENCED the mulit-generational negativity that Black Americans have experienced, because HE DOES NOT COME FROM A HERITAGE OF SLAVERY.

Of course AAs teach their children their history, if they didn't, who would? It's certainly not taguht in schools, except for a white-washed (pardon the ironic teminology; then again, don't) version.

AAs as a group do not teach their children negativity; rather, AAs learn the harsh realities of the world through their experiences with White Americans like many of the PPs on this thread. Have things improved over the last few decades? Certainly. Do we still have a long way to go? Certainly. As proved, again, by a lot of the PPs on this thread. [/quote]

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