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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What a depressing thread. Seriously how are you people not ashamed? [b]The American Academy of Pediatrics has taken a strong stand against spanking, for good reason. [/b]I can’t believe so many people are on here advocating against medical advice, because they want to hit their kids. Disgusting. It isn’t an effective form of discipline in the long run and yes maybe you can scare the crap out of your kid in the short term but at what cost. It also used to be fine for men to hit their wives. Now we know better so we do better (hopefully). When will you guys catch up with regard to your kids?

And all you idiots claiming to never spank in anger are full of crap. My parents were generally really calm disciplinarians who belonged to a church that believed in spanking. The vast majority of the time they were calm and collected about it. But the one time I saw my mom hit my brother angrily is still with me to this day. I know she regrets it and has to live with it. It should be a red line you never cross.[/quote]

When they speak up about CIO then I'll give a crap what they recommend. Spanking a CHILD is not okay but letting a BABY cry itself to sleep is fine? What BS.[/quote]

What? Hitting a child is physically abusive. Leaving a baby to cry itself to sleep is emotionally neglectful and manipulative but it is pretty different than hitting. I am fine with a strong anti-spanking stance and radio silence on sleep training. [/quote]

side note sometimes you sleep through baby crying or are in the shower. babies cry ALL the time. not stopping babies crying instantly is not the same as actively walloping a small human.[/quote]

OK, so teaching a tiny baby they can't count on their parents to take care of their needs so they might as well give up or just run out of energy crying and fall asleep is okay with you -- but you flinch at spanking. Again, what BS. CIO is abuse.[/quote]

you may well be right but this is not the subject of this thread, nor are those saying spanking is not fine, saying cio is. we are also not saying killing giraffes on safari, putting electric collars on dogs, rubbing cats noses in their own poop, locking kids in their room in time out, 'the silent treatment' for a spouse or partner, firing someone without notice, firing a pregnant person, emotional affairs, affairs when your spouse has dementia, quick remarriage after widowhood, and innumerable other perceived transgressions are or are not ok. we are talking about hitting kids. so please, stay on message.[/quote]

Well someone brought up the American Academy of Pediatrics' recommendation not to spank. Hence I was saying, I don't think their opinion is valid since they are silent on the abuse of CIO. Their opinion is suspect.

Follow along, PP.[/quote]

this is such a niche hill to die on. [/quote]

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