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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just saw the Jesus commercial. Can I go throw up now?[/quote] That was a lot less treacly than the patriotic bullshit and the Pat Tillman bullshit and the Eagles coach sobbing during the national anthem. [/quote] "Pat Tillman bullshit" WOW [/quote] I don’t think anyone thinks Pat Tillman is bullshit. What I think is that the army did very poorly by him and that it’s somewhat shameful that people have used his story to promote army recruitment.[/quote] If you are the PP you clearly thought patriotism, Pat Tilman and a head coach at the Pinnacle of his career crying over one of the most beautiful renditions of the National Anthem I am a lifelong Democrat, and I will assume you are much further to the left than me, and if that is the case, you give Democrats a horrible wrap. Patriotism, a strong military and loving your country is not bad. Alt Right morons make it appear bad. Most Americans feel the same way..D or R.[/quote] I am not the PP. I am also a liberal who considers herself very patriotic. I believe coaches and players cry for many reasons during the anthem, and the largest among them probably has to be that they have all spent much of their lives hoping to get to that moment, where they get to hear the anthem before they play football's biggest game. I do not judge them for crying. But I do feel like the Pat Tillman revisionist history is exactly what is WRONG with patriotism in this country. Pat Tillman went to serve because he believed in fighting for his country and he was murdered by his own unit (friendly fire or intentional frankly I think is still up in the air). The army then went to extensive lengths to cover it up including the destruction of evidence (and the destruction of his diary, which was devastating to his family). The fact that this man, who was failed so egregiously by the army and this country in life and in death is used in this way, as a tool to evoke emotion in the public and drive interest in military enlistment, is shameful. You cannot be responsible for the death of someone, lie to their family and their country to cover it up, and then use their likeness to prop yourself up. So one patriot to another, Pat Tillman propaganda IS bullshit, even if patriotism is not. [/quote]
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