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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This forum is way too consumed about race. [/quote] lol everything in America now (not just education but politics economics culture etc) is 100% all about race now. It’s exhausting![/quote] you're "exhausted" hearing about race and racism, imagine actually have to be on the receiving end of it for your entire life, and daily in the form of micro-agression. we'd pick having to "hear discussions" any day! you guys are a trip! lol[/quote] I’m not white or East Asian and it is exhausting hearing about race In the us Is europe more racist than the us - yeah, but honestly I prefer it to the racial discourse in the us College admissions is more meritocratic, less violence, better food supply and trains I am ok with the trade off that europe is too racist to ever elect a kid that looks like me as prime minister In the us, the 24/7 racial discourse is a scam to distract people from the other issues [/quote] Europe doesn't have the same dialogue because they didn't import Black people, subjegate and enslave them, deny them rights for decades and continue to treat them like crap despite the fact their ancestors built the nation, literally, especially in the South. So Europe will NEVER Compare. The non-dominant race people in Europe have less "claim" and rights as Blacks and indegnous people who were literally slaughtered and forced to live on reservations. The history of racism is baked into the fabric of American soil and for that reason, it will always be an issue here. Also, in Europe, their brand of racism isn't as instiutitonalized and integrated as it is here in America. Further, I dont' know about you but most people can pay attention to more than one thing at a time. [/quote] New poster-- No, Europe did not have slavery to the extent and duration the US did. They just colonized African countries and subjugated black people there. Second, Europeans were very happy to enslave those black people and bring them to both North and South America to do as other Europeans wished. Third, I'm not so sure racism in Europe is as benign as you think. Many countries just haven't the opportunity to interact with blacks that would lead the ignorant to develop an opinion. It will never be the same as racism in the US, but it's looking like it will be plenty ugly as those opportunities grow. Finally, neither the US nor Europe can hold a candle to Asia when it comes to racism. No enslavement of other races, but most countries there won't even let other Asians whose families haven't been in their country for generations hold any positions of importance, let alone consider blacks, whites, etc. fit to be considered equals in society.[/quote] My kids didn’t own slaves. My ancestors were poor immigrants from Italy and Ireland who faced huge amounts of discrimination when they arrived in the US. So why are they looked at less favorably in the admissions office exactly?[/quote] Because race matters more than socioeconomic hardships in AOs/colleges. It's why a very rich and privileged hispanic or AA student is considered more preferential than a poor white kid. They tried to capture it with FirstGEn, but a lot of these households have a parent that attended some form of college, e.g., not first Gen. So the hispanic or AA kids that attend a ritzy private school and have doctors for parents are looked more preferentially than the kid coming out of a low-class white background with one working mother that has a degree.[/quote]
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