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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow, I am in a weird place with this thread.  On one hand, I think it's absurd to force kids to give up their phones, especially as they get older.  I can't decide if it's infantalizing them, and expecting they do do things much younger than age-appropriate, or Boomer-esque by assuming they will sit around and chat like Grandma does before her bridge game.

On the other hand, I think the [b]people who insist that their kids never, ever be separated from their phones because they have to be able to be contacted all the time, or because here may be a scary dog, or someone might be mean to them, or whatever other nonsense they have come up with are equally, if not more ridiculous.  [/b]

So, I guess I have no home.  Verdict, ESH.   [/quote]

Please. How often do you leave the house without YOUR phone? I could question you on all the reasons you think you might need a cell phone when you go somewhere and it would be just as silly. And none of my business.[/quote]

They are on electronics posting this.[/quote]

If the posters are posting while they are the in middle of social gathering that is rude and speaks to a larger problem.  If they are posting by themselves, then how is that relevant to our discussion here?[/quote]
What social gathering do you go to where the host takes your phone?[/quote]

Do you think the phone will be sold as soon as it's "taken"? What exactly are you so worried about? If someone at the house really meant to harm your kid you know they actually would take the phone and not even put it in a communal spot that is easily accessible, right?[/quote]

The particular comments you are responding to are about the PARENTS’ use of phones not a teen’s.  Teens carry phones when they leave the home for the same reasons adults do.[/quote]

And adults are often asked to turn off or mute their phones. You're probably the jerk who doesn't because you're above the rules and nobody's gonna be the boss of you![/quote]

If I was invited to someone’s house and they asked me to turn off my phone, I would turn around and leave.  That would be truly bizarre.[/quote]

There are several times when I've gone out to eat with people and they're on their phone. I'm RIGHT HERE! And I've said to them "Everything okay in there?" in a jokey way. Once I just got up and said "It seems like you're too busy for us to hang out today. Why don't you call me when you're ready to reschedule?" and walked out.  Don't go to a lunch with someone and spend the bulk of the time on your phone. Don't go to a party and sit alone on your phone. It's SO rude. It's one thing to step away and take a call from your kid, or answer a quick work call/text. But to play games on your phone, or scroll through Instagram?  I'm not spending my time with someone doing that.[/quote]

Depressed PP here. This is what I’m talking about. If adults can be like this, of course tweens and teens can too- even more so! They haven’t ever had to learn to socialize without them, and they are really bad at it unless they practice. I work in a high school.

I am just gobsmacked over the posters who are saying they would get angry! and leave! or have their children never come back! to a house/person that asks them to focus on the here and now. We KNOW phones are a problem for kids- there’s, like, data about it. Silicon Bros don’t give their kids devices! So why in the world would you get defensive if a parent wanted to try, artificially, to creat a phone free socializing hangout? I am not buying the what if there’s an emergency (cmon- you have the parents’ contact info most likely). But I realize now that this is exactly what you would all say - outraged- if schools tried to get kids off their phones for real. If there were real consequences for having it out in class. I actually thought that admin was using a bit of a dodge saying that parents wouldn’t be on board with no phones in classes. But now I see, really really clearly, and sadly!, that they were right. You are all addicted (me too, I guess) and maybe threatened? Feeling judged? If someone tries to help kids with their developing addictions.

Bah. Good night. This sucks. We are f*cked. [/quote]

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