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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All you folks talking about poorly behaved special needs kids are likely NOT parents of kids with unique needs, and you should consider yourself lucky. Such holier than thou attitudes and a wholesale lack of empathy for kids. No kid WANTS to behave that way. Behaviors like that are expressing an unmet need. Those kids are in a world a hurt and need support, possibly therapy or other tools. It is not unlike a kid with dyslexia or even a physical disability. Schools, SN kids, and resources were barely getting by pre pandemic and now we’ve got two years of no progress and more stress on everyone, especially those kids who were left behind. And the learning loss amongst SN kids was far worse than most typical kids. Rather than fault the kids, or the parents of those kids, start screaming at your school boards and their inane funding priorities. Raise teacher salaries, invest in more SN instructional assistants and their training, more case managers and specialists. Maybe something more than 1 BCBA for 25 schools would help… [/quote] All people are saying is that those kids don't belong in the classroom with neurotypical kids. It doesn't serve society well to help out one or two kids at the expense of 25 others.[/quote] That is the fundamental gap. They do belong in regular classrooms. Remember back in the 60’s when kids in wheelchairs were sent to special schools, away from the “regular” kids? Ruled unconstitutional. Thank god for the ADA. Same applies here hence the ‘least restrictive environment’ laws. [/quote] JUST STOP. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT WHEELCHAIRS OR DYSLEXIA AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW THAT. So freaking disingenuous. :roll: [/quote] I don't think it's disingenuous. It wasn't long ago that physically disabled people could not access schools or other public resources., whether they were intellectually able or not. We can all agree that was wrong. Also, not too long ago, black people were not allowed to attend the publicly funded schools. Very wrong. Now we are talking if kids who are disruptive/violent or special needs can attend school? I don't want violence around my child, but where the distiction is made is impossible. Profoundly SN kids do have schools here in DC. Kids who are traumatized/on spectrum/LD probably do belong in public school. Private has been the option for people who want their kids insulated.[/quote] Excuse me? “Where the distinction is made” wrt violence is NOT impossible. Are they hurting others or not? Next. [/quote] OK. So tell me what age, what violence, what consequence. Make the distinctions. If you have a kid in school, you must know that little kids often lack impulse control, and hit and shove each other. Is that enough to get moved to your hypothetically funded special school, which by the way you would never vote to pay for. Yet you want magically for "bad kids" to disappear from your child's realm? Nothing happens without work -- your work. Other people are out there doing it. So, tell me how this plan works, and by age. We have a disruptive chair-thrower. At what point is he taken out of your child's classroom? What ages does this policy apply to? Where does the excommunicated child go? What standards are applied to make sure this is done in a fair manner? What fantasy world do you live in? Do you only want to complain, without solutions? Why aren't you rich enough to solve your own problems? [/quote]
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