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Reply to "NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am fine with that. College admissions needs a massive overhaul. [/quote] Depending on what the Supreme Court says, one of the biggest changes will be elimination of any sort of “Women in STEM” outreach programs, preferences, or scholarships. Be careful what you (ignorantly) wish for. [/quote] Sure. Unless you are an Asian American woman. What this article fails to mention is that the whole college admissions process has been blatantly racist against Asians. Also since we are talking about women girls in general are disadvantaged under admissions to make way for more males that are less qualified. Again college admission here needs an overhaul. Many other countries rely on other meritocratic measures for competitive college admissions and I am all for that. [/quote] Curious which countries you are referring that have meritocratic methods?[/quote] China, Japan, and South Korea. And those kids literally kill themselves if they don’t gain admission. Suicide and depression rates among teens are off the chart in those countries. It’s collective trauma. [/quote] Cheating on tests in these countries is rampant, and politically-connected and wealthy families can very easily buy their way into the top universities. I figured these would be examples of the countries offered...add India as another country where the admissions process is a mess.[/quote] Asians and South Asians cheat on standardized tests? Really?[/quote] A simple Google search will pull up numerous examples. There are numerous examples of cheating in China (more than one scandal). There are several articles about cheating on all parts of applications on a wide scale by Chinese applicants. India had to use extreme measures and jam internet signals for the Indian equivalent so the A levels last year. Several years ago, parents were scaling a school building to help kids cheat. This is what happens when everything comes down to a high stakes test. I think people get so desperate that they do things they otherwise would not. I wouldn't call it "merit" when there is wide scale cheating. (I'm not saying Asian Americans are cheating before someone thinks that. I'm just backing up the point that other countries' systems also have their flaws.)[/quote]
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