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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For those of you wondering why tuition has gone up so much--it's not just climbing walls and administrative creep (although that doesn't hurt.  Here are some of the things schools must now provide that cost a lot of money:
1)  Mental health services
2) ADA and accommodation services (extra test time et al)
3) FERPA/HIIPA administrators
4)DEI deans, programs, counselors, et al
5) Improved housing and dining

I'm not saying that these changes are bad--it's great that kids with mental health issues, disabilities, needing accommodations can now go to school, and DEI is important.  But if you think about how it was when the boomers went to school -- some large lectures and bare bones housing, no counseling at all -- and what it is like today at schools, you see why it costs so much more.[/quote]

“Rich kids are more expensive to educate because they’re more likely to be disabled and mentally ill” is not a take I expected to encounter on DCUM, but here we are. [/quote]

P: Not sure why you jumped to rich kids. This is happening at most higher ed institutions, no matter who they primarily serve, rich, poor, URM, etc. As the OP stated, administrative creep is one reason and it seems like the lack of transparency in the market, as well as student loans/financial aid, has contributed to the problem, but so has the items on OP's list: https://www.businessinsider.com/why-is-college-so-expensive-2018-4[/quote]

The schools that enroll a lot of rich kids cost a lot more than the schools that enroll a lot of middle class kids. You said the reason the price was so high was that the kids need more disability and mental health services. The only way that can explain the high marginal cost of Ivies over the cost of going OOS to a school like Florida, UGA, OSU, UIUC, or Purdue, is if the rich kids are more likely to need those services. [/quote]

The elite schools have always cost more.  They cost more because they have better facilities (sometimes), more research supported, smaller class sizes, more advisors and services for the students, etc.  It costs much more to offer Chemistry 101 with only 50-100 students or less vs 500+ per class. My one kid has chemistry lab where there are no partners so each kid attends a lab of only 10-12 students and does lab solely by themselves, that means more space, time, equipment,TAs to run labs, etc. Similarly for other classes that are even smaller at most elite universities.   They often require housing for 2 years and some for 3-4---this all costs money (whereas your big state schools sometimes do not even guaranteed housing for freshman).  So they must have maintain more dorms, dining halls, etc.  The more elite schools often have better RA to student ratio in dorms (or even just mid tiered private/more expensive schools)....my kids all had 1:25/30 RA ratios, but at the big state schools we looked at it would be 1:60/80 RA:student ratio. All of these little things cost more and add up.    [/quote]

The elite schools also cost more because they have the elite professors who they pay like football stars....these professor bring in research $$ and other grant.

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