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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]even in this scenario "low-performing, low-income kids for high-performing, UMC kids" (which is itself a little bit of a stereotype) - there are some long-term socioemotional benefits to growing up in a socioeconomically diverse setting rather than a more sheltered umc bubble with limited income disparity[/quote]

Is this your opinion or is this peer reviewed research?[/quote]

Not the PP but there is so much research on this out there. See professors Rucker Johnson, Jess Calarco, Genevieve Siegel-Hawley, everything at The Century Foundation, The Problem We All Live With (Nikole Hannah-Jones)

Frankly I'm surprised at how many people are ignorant of the vast benefits of integrated schools. AND for vulnerable kids school integration is less expensive than throwing extra funds at hyper-segregated schools and it produces better results. It's a win/win. [/quote]

No one questions it's good for vulnerable kids.  [b]But is it good for non-vulnerable, high performing kids? [/b]The former is a no-brainer.  The latter is kind of wishful thinking. And this is why the parents of high performing UMC kids balk at this narrative - because it views their children as tools to use for the benefit of the vulnerable, without any thought as to benefits to the "tool".

I would also say, with all my kindness, that the parents of nonwhite or recent immigrant high-performing kids give zero importance to "integrated schools", in my experience.  Affluent blacks in DC go to private schools.  Educated Indian, Chinese, Russian, Arab parents in the suburbs go directly to the highest-performing schools.  They don't ask themselves whether their children will be "surrounded" by others like them (frankly, Indians and Asians no longer have to).   They don't care about integration AT ALL.  They care about results.[/quote]

Yes! Very much so.[/quote]

I believe most research says that it is “not bad” for the high-performing students, not that it “ver much so” good for them.  Also, studies are generally talking about schools they are strong majority (like 70%+) not-vulnerable students.[/quote]

Doesn’t mean it’s bad, means there’s no data.[/quote]

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