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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]anyone else get the vibe that the college kids actually stole the phone and that’s why they made such a massive deal over him continuing to search their area for it? And he knew they had it, hence why he didn’t leave?

Makes the most sense to me IMO. Because otherwise why were the college kids so fixated on him looking for his phone and screaming names at him, and why else was he so fixated on continuing to look right in that area despite the big group harassing him [/quote]

It will be interesting to see if the claims that he was asking some in the group where he could meet girls/asking about meeting women is true. It will come up in court, and I want to know his answer under oath and to hear from the witnesses who said he said that under oath. Because even if he were deliberately doing that to intentionally rile them up and creep them out to get back at them for the alleged theft or concealment of his phone, it definitely points to HIM being the creep and the agitator and the one who escalated the situation.

But I have to say, I know plenty of older men like this: they assume they know the answer (you have my phone), they assume if they don’t get the answer they want to hear that someone is lying, they think they have the right to get into people’s personal space (especially women). And if he were deliberately acting like a creep and agitator to get back at what he perceived to be them lying, then yes, of course they would call him a creep. It will all come out at trial. [/quote]

I could absolutely see it going down this way.  And then he got in over his head once the entire group started surrounding him, assaulting him, etc which of course he didn't anticipate as a older-middle aged while male surrounded by people he probably thought of as kids (even though they were, by and large, adults and likely all of whom were faster, stronger, etc than him).  And then he pulled the knife and went off the deep end. So many dumb people in this situation.  Why didn't he leave? Why didn't the other group leave?  Why did they each feel so entitled to keep harassing the other person?  I feel like our society is doomed. The only silver lining here is that no one seemed to have a gun on them, or there would be a lot more people dead. [/quote]

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