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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our school is getting rid of LLIV (or rather integrating LLIV into regular classrooms) [b]so there will be two smart kid classes and two dumb kids classes[/b]. Most of my kid's LLIV friends are moving to the center so maybe that will at least lead to smaller class sizes..[/quote] I really, really hope you are a troll[/quote] I am not a troll, this is what we've been told, not in so many words, but there will be Level III/IV classes and Level I/II classes. If that's not segregation into smart/dumb, I don't know what is.[/quote] I teach at a Title 1 school [b]with one local Level IV class.[/b] There are not enough Level IV kids to fill the class, so it also has Level III and a couple Level II kids. Per the state requirements specific hours (per month) need to be given to the “gifted” students. This is how the county fulfills that state requirement. The goal in the next 2+ years is to push the AAP curriculum down to Gen Ed anyways…[b]I’m not sure how that we go, but we’ll see.[/b] [/quote] The class you describe is no longer a Level IV class. I’ll tell you how it will go. The slower students through no fault of their own will crash and burn. [b]The curriculum will get watered down. The teaching will get dumbed down. The students who require a more challenging learning environment (through no fault of their own) will wind up with the short end of the stick.[/b] And both China and India will conquer the world with the next generation of highly educated and rigorously trained scientists and engineers while we drown ourselves in the Sea of Mediocrity.[/quote] The bold is true, but the anti-AAP brigade here refuses to believe it. I've seen it in action with friends' kids who grew frustrated and bored with being asked by the teachers to "help" other students with math all the time, or who were left to do projects without much teacher interaction or direction because the teachers HAD to focus on the kids who needed more help. And yes, this was in the the local level IV "AAP" classes in a couple of different schools. The fault wasn't the teachers'. The fault was in the myth that teachers can magically differentiate in the classroom even in local level IV. Nope. Those classes will be filled out with kids who don't want to be there and/or don't have the same aptitude as others, and they will not get all the help they need, while the kids who can move faster and absorb more, more quickly, also don't get the very different type of help they need. But we're not supposed to say any of this out loud, oh no. Heaven forbid we should speak frankly about how kids with aptitude have needs too, and how centers have met those needs for years. "At what cost?!" cry the anti-AAP mommies of DCUM. None to you, personally. But you still want to tank the center schools, which work just fine, and actually let your kids' Gen Ed teachers actually have more time for your kids. [/quote] If kids can no longer flee to centers, wouldn’t local level programs be stronger because you would have enough kids for a classroom? GT classes back in the day did not have centers. And some of the people bringing these issues up-myself included-are AAP parents. Whenever anyone brings up any criticism of the program to light-some AAP parents lose their minds and automatically assume it’s anti-AAP jealous gen Ed parents. And tons of parents have kids in both AAP and gen Ed.[/quote] The option for centers should remain even if level 4 is offered at the base school. Parents should be able to send their kids to centers with kids at similar academic levels. Level 4 at the schools will never be better or even equal except maybe at schools with high SES population.[/quote] The entitlement mentality you have is quite astounding. No, if schools all have LLIV, then centers should no longer be an option. FCPS talks a big game with “equity,” but offering one set of kids the choice of two schools and the other set of kids only one needs to end. Deal with it.[/quote] LLIV **does not equal** Center instruction. Class of 12 average- + fast-pace learners will not receive the same level of instruction as a Center class of 24. You should also do some reading on the differences between "equity" and "equality."[/quote] I'm sorry, but I frankly do not care if a LLIV kid isn't receiving *quite* the same level of instruction as a center class. :roll: :roll: Which I doubt, anyway. A teacher here already said they are receiving the same curriculum. As for equity vs equality, you never addressed the question of why some kids have two schools to choose from while others are stuck at one school. Not equitable OR equal.[/quote]
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