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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our school is getting rid of LLIV (or rather integrating LLIV into regular classrooms) [b]so there will be two smart kid classes and two dumb kids classes[/b]. Most of my kid's LLIV friends are moving to the center so maybe that will at least lead to smaller class sizes..[/quote]
I really, really hope you are a troll[/quote]

I am not a troll, this is what we've been told, not in so many words, but there will be Level III/IV classes and Level I/II classes. If that's not segregation into smart/dumb, I don't know what is.[/quote]

I teach at a Title 1 school [b]with one local Level IV class.[/b] There are not enough Level IV kids to fill the class, so it also has Level III and a couple Level II kids. Per the state requirements specific hours (per month) need to be given to the “gifted” students. This is how the county fulfills that state requirement. The goal in the next 2+ years is to push the AAP curriculum down to Gen Ed anyways…[b]I’m not sure how that we go, but we’ll see.[/b] [/quote]

The class you describe is no longer a Level IV class.

I’ll tell you how it will go. The slower students through no fault of their own will crash and burn. [b]The curriculum will get watered down. The teaching will get dumbed down. The students who require a more challenging learning environment (through no fault of their own) will wind up with the short end of the stick.[/b] And both China and India will conquer the world with the next generation of highly educated and rigorously trained scientists and engineers while we drown ourselves in the Sea of Mediocrity.[/quote]

The bold is true, but the anti-AAP brigade here refuses to believe it. I've seen it in action with friends' kids who grew frustrated and bored with being asked by the teachers to "help" other students with math all the time, or who were left to do projects without much teacher interaction or direction because the teachers HAD to focus on the kids who needed more help. And yes, this was in the the local level IV "AAP" classes in a couple of different schools. The fault wasn't the teachers'. The fault was in the myth that teachers can magically differentiate in the classroom even in local level IV. Nope. Those classes will be filled out with kids who don't want to be there and/or don't have the same aptitude as others, and they will not get all the help they need, while the kids who can move faster and absorb more, more quickly, also don't get the very different type of help they need. But we're not supposed to say any of this out loud, oh no. Heaven forbid we should speak frankly about how kids with aptitude have needs too, and how centers have met those needs for years. "At what cost?!" cry the anti-AAP mommies of DCUM. None to you, personally. But you still want to tank the center schools, which work just fine, and actually let your kids' Gen Ed teachers actually have more time for your kids. [/quote]

What about all the general ed kids who are being left behind while your precious AAP snowflake gets all the best teachers and the best resources while our children are ignored. DO NOT DENY IT YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE.  Your babies are so special they deserve all the special things, but all the other kids are just too dumb and don't deserve the good teachers.[/quote]

I'm sorry, but this sounds so pathetically jealous. How is this attitude helping your child or contributing to the dialogue? If you think your child needs AAP, then ADVOCATE for them. Talk to the teacher, the AART, the administration. Strengthen your materials and submit again. Then again. Don't give up and complain that others have what your kid doesn't if you aren't doing anything about it.

If you feel your child is being left behind, supplement supplement supplement.

The hard truth is that not every kid can handle AAP-level material. If yours can, keep at it until they're in the program. If they can't, accept it and move on.

But don't try to drag down an entire successful program with your pettiness.[/quote]
I am not the PP but the truth is that the bright kids in ged ed could most likely handle AAP because AAP is an accelerated program and not necessarily a program for the gifted. My kid is in AAP and it honestly feels like what gen ed would have been a couple of decades ago.  I have another one in level III services so she gets some services.  I still supplement my kids math and writing bc I think ES is just lacking in FCPS.[/quote]

If they could handle it, they'd be in it. FCPS isn't on a mission to screw a bunch of smart kids. [/quote]
Have you read the number of kids who are rejected from it in the AAP forum?  Yes, bright kids are rejected from it with very high scores. And don't even get me started on the BS appeal process. It is pretty arbitrary and harder to get in at higher income schools. And my kid is in it and she is bright---but wouldn't say she is a genius.  There I said it. This is what drivers me bonkers about some AAP parents. You refuse to look at any fault of the program.  Saying there are issues is not the same as being anti-AAP or wanting to get rid of it.  Somehow you see any criticism of it as an affront to you and your children.  Talk about freaking insecurity. [/quote]

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