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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Abortion is one of those things you can be fully, 100 percent against - until you need one. My catholic best childhood friend was against abortion rights until she got pregnant at 19. She got an abortion.[/quote]

This x 1,000, 000

I grew up Catholic and going to Catholic schools. The first person I knew to have an abortion was a very pro life and had participated in rallies with our church and had actually cried tears while talking about the issue with others. When she got pregnancy as a freshman in college her first thought was to have an abortion which she did. She didn’t regret it. She still attends church, married has kids.

I absolutely believe a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy. But then again, I also absolutely believe that a person has a right to refuse vaccines. And the absolute right to refuse any and/or all medical interventions and medications. (as long as they are a legal competent adult)  It’s their body, their life, their choice.  I absolutely don’t support most pro choice organizations because they don’t believe these things[b]. If you say “my body, my choice” but believe it only aligns with this one issue, then you don’t really[/b] believe it and I can understand why pro life proponents don’t take you seriously. [/quote]

Reproductive choices don't make anyone else sick. The choice to not get your kids the typical childhood vaccinations has made other people sick. With the original variant of the Covid pandemic, vaccinations absolutely protected those around us. And throughout the pandemic, unvaccinated people have caused stress on the health care system.

There's a huge difference between vaccination and abortion.

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Neither are reversible. 
Both can have serious health consequences for the individual receiving them. 
So you either believe “my body, my choice” in all medical choices or you don’t really believe it and just like to say slogans. 🤷‍♀️

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I do believe "my body my choice." But vaccines affect everyone around you. Abortions don't. I don't believe vaccines can be required to live in the US (my body my choice) but I am ok with restrictions on unvaccinated people by employers and private business because of the fact that unvaccinated people can negatively affect the people around them (my choice=my choice to accept the consequences). A woman's abortion has zero potential to negatively affect the people around her.

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Well, it affects one other person around her, at least.[/quote]
Bingo. [/quote]

It is not a person. It doesn’t have a name, or better yet, a consciousness and a functioning brain. It doesn’t have a social security number. It is up to the woman carrying that potential person to decide if they come to existence or not. Just like it is up to her to decide if/when to have one of her monthly eggs fertilized. An embryo is not much different than an egg - both are a *potential* person. Unique DNA is a weak argument: there is nothing unique about a species of which there are 8 billion in existence. [/quote]

This seems to be some new, radical talking point-saying an embryo, an egg fertilized by sperm, is the same as an unfertilized egg. They are not remotely the same thing. Between this and saying males can be females, the left wing has gone seriously off the deep end when it comes to science. [/quote]

Why do you think that only women on the left gets abortions? And we all know that a fertilised egg is a potential human. I happen to think that what goes on in my body is my business, and is nothing to do with anyone else. Would you like me to come to all your medical appointments with you and decide which treatment you should receive? [/quote]

Your reply had nothing to do with the post. PP is referring to many posters on this board who keeping comparing embryos to eggs, saying there's no difference. They are very very different, but there's a new talking point that attempts to equalize them. But since you posted, if I'm not pregnant, than my medical issues involve just me, not a life inside of me. Again, a difference. All the repeating of non-science based talking points will not change the fact that embryos and fetuses are lives that are separate from the mother. Do I believe that women should be able to choose to end that life? Up to a point, yes, I do.  But all these radical talking points are doing the pro-choice movement no favors at all.[/quote]

Perhaps what PP means is that in her mind they aren't that different. I agree with her. I don't believe fertilization conveys any special unicorn status on an egg. It is a potential for human life, just like the egg and the sperm were. You can believe differently if you like.[/quote]

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