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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think we need to hear the other side. What is the experience for those kids who were the top math kid in their class, unlike the girl in the first profile who says she as not good math? What happened to those kids and how are they doing now?[/quote]

Probably the same as they’ve always done? [/quote]

What do you mean by that? Same as they have always done would mean they would be at TJ under the old admissions standards.[/quote]

Unless the top math kid at a middle school can’t write an essay then they are at TJ. 
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Why would you think that? The process is not designed to ensure that top math kids get admitted.[/quote]

Only the top kids who have exceptional essays and portraits - which include math. It’s just not the *only* thing they are looking for. [/quote]

Lot of kids attend Curie not just to get into TJ but parents want their children a strong foundation so they can be successful in HS and College. Curie makes you work very hard and learn stuff. It is not just TJ prep. They do focus on TJ prep essay practices towards the end but that is not the main goal. The reason you see so many kids from Curie is because of the quality of teaching they provide and the hard work they expect from kids. The teachers at Curie are very hardworking...they work nights, weekends with Curie kids.  Just signing up for Curie doesn't guarantee TJ admission....there are kids who cannot handle Curie workload expectations and don't do well in Curie too. If you know of any family in low income bracket and kid needs help, reach out to Curie and they will sign him up for free....not many people know or don't take advantage of this offer. BTW, I don't work for Curie. I had a child who went to Curie and got into TJ so I am saying these for a fact. Again, main focus of Curie is to help kids to be successful in whatever school they go to and the goal is not to prep them for a TJ written test. If you know stuff, you can answer any kind of question....that is the goal.

FCPS is ahead of the game.  They are modeling future TJ graduates on Elon Musk - you have to be a provocateur, an expert at tweeting and creating a furor among other things.  Focusing on math is passé- totally old-fashioned.  Braband will soon author a book on the amazing pathway from essay writing to STEM success.

Call me old fashioned - but I’d rather be with the party that champions old fashioned values when it comes to STEM education (and it starts with M and is not a bad word)[/quote]

Success in STEM isn’t 100% math. There are also other important qualities.

- STEM person who’s taken more math & science than almost everyone here

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Nobody is saying it is 100% Math. But you cannot devalue math the way it has been done.

- STEM person who wrote the books you relied on growing up[/quote]

Dang. I’m old so you must be ancient.  :lol:

STEM is more than “focusing on math”. 
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We can agree that STEM is more than “focusing on math”.  We can also agree that essay-writing should have less emphasis than Math in demonstrating STEM aptitude.

Perhaps we can meet up when the Eagles are playing in town.  😉[/quote]

I’ll put the pink champagne on ice. ;)

In addition to the profile & essay, I would support adding a math/science test component to the application. Ideally, a standardized test so kids could all have access to prep materials (not just those who pay to have unethical access to previous test questions on a supposedly confidential test).

Regardless of what happens with TJ admissions, the GOP will not help public education. On the contrary. They want to devalue and defund it.

I think all kids should have access to math and we should explore new ways to make it more accessible to everyone. 
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The old admissions process used a standardized math and science test!  This process eliminated the test in favor of extra points for demographics.[/quote]

Yes.  After folks were caught cheating by having access to the questions.  Not sure what the answer is, but I don't think you can say the "smartest" kids were getting in before when prep centers were literally giving kids the questions and answers in advance.  That's not intelligence.  It's cheating.[/quote]

The vast majority of kids didn’t cheat and many didn’t even prep.  It’s ridiculous for you to make such a broad statement and it suggests all you know about Tj admissions is what you read on this board.[/quote]

Sure, a small number of kids didn't, but when one single prep center in a remote corner of TJ's "boundary" accounts for 30% alone you can bet the actual number of preppers is closer to 90%.[/quote]

One single prep center did not account for 30% of the TJ kids.  This has been explained ad nauseam on this forum, but you either are pushing an agenda or you're too stupid to comprehend simple facts.  Curie counted quite a lot of kids as admitted to all of TJ, AOS, and AET.  Many of these LCPS kids opted to attend AOS/AET, but you're still counting them as TJ attendees.  Then, after those kids declined their TJ spots, new LCPS kids from Curie were offered admission and included by Curie in their list.  You're counting these kids, too, as attending TJ.

You can't include both the kids who declined admissions and the kids who were then offered admissions from the waitlist, and then go zOMG!!!  133 kids from Curie are attending TJ.

I'd love to see the demographics of LCPS TJ applicants.  I bet that not many kids outside the South Asian community are even interested in commuting all the way from Loudoun just for high school.  I also would bet that pretty much every single above average South Asian kid in Loudoun is taking classes at Curie.  [/quote]

I saw the ad  even. Curie alone accounted for 30% of those admitted the year that was published.[/quote][/quote]

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