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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really am wondering if even a third of their nukes actually would launch.  They are using vehicles and tanks literally from the 1980s.  
What a third rate military power.  [/quote]

Russians military power has always been over rated and built up by the defense industry. I know military experts who did war games after the collapse of the Soviet Union. They went to each country inspected the military and were just shocked. The common theme was the West wasted so much money because the Russians military was a paper tiger. [/quote]

Not quite wasted.  The world is a very dangerous place.  That Russia can't compete means nothing if we are at war with China which is pretty darn likely.  [/quote]
To PPP, Russian/Soviet military equipment hasn’t always been overrated.  During WW II the T-34, especially later variants with the 76mm, was probably the best tank ever produced up until that time and set the standard for what a mbt was to be and how to operationally employ them.  The Il-2 was the best ground attack aircraft of the war and later models of the Yakolevs could hold their own against any other fighters especially at lower altitudes.  After the war the MiG-15 was the best of the first generation jet fighters.  The Soviet’s Alpha class submarine was a shock to  the West.  The Borei class is really good as far as boomers go.  The later variants in the Su-27 family are very capable.  They’ve always had very good ground based AD systems - ask our flyers in Vietnam what they thought of those missiles; the S-400 is still very capable and the S-500 system may be the best ever in its class.  Russian artillery also has always been very potent, both canon and rocket systems.  I agree the MIC and the Pentagon do overplay the overall threat because they need to get paid but to just dismiss it all out of hand is wrong.[/quote]

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