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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stop normalizing guns.

Republican Thomas Massie condemned for Christmas guns photo
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/republican-thomas-massie-condemned-for-christmas-guns-photo-congressman-michigan-school-shooting[/url][/quote]

[b]Guns ARE normal. They always have been. [/b]

40% of households in the US have at least one gun in them (and those are only the households that freely [i]admitted[/i] to having a gun). There are more AR15’s in America than there are minivans - ALL minivans, regardless of manufacturer. Remember that the next time you see a minivan. Many high schools have rifle or trap/skeet teams. There are likely 400,000,000 guns in America at this point. More than 1 per person.

So yeah, guns are pretty ubiquitous. No one needs to normalize them. They’re already normal. [/quote]

You are right. Guns are normal and always have been...IN AMERICA. Nowhere else in any civilized country. Are we comfortable with having the highest rate of gun ownership in the world? Are we comfortable with normalizing armed intruder drills in our schools from grade school on?  A school shooting is an isolated, once-in-a-lifetime event in most countries--here it happens year round, every year. Why are we so different than other civilized nations on this matter? [/quote]

Why are we comfortable with gun violence being the second leading cause of death of children in the US?[/quote]

Except it’s not, unless you use the most tortured, cherry picked manipulation of statistics possible. Which is exactly what you’re citing in your “Everytown for gun safety” talking points. I know this because I get the same emails you do.

Some examples:

suicides are divided into two categories in this data package -“ firearm suicides”, and “all other suicides”. Why? Suicide is suicide. What difference does the means make? Why are firearm suicides counted as a separate event, while hanging, poisoning, intentional OD, bleeding, or jumping/falling all counted together as one? Why? Because it pads the numbers.

Age. The data package counts every death up until age 19. 19? That’s an adult. There are lots of hardcore 19 year old gangbangers. Some of them get shot doing gangbanger stuff. That’s an occupational hazard. But it sure helps with padding the numbers, doesn’t it? Of course it does.

Remove the figures for suicides and homicides of 18 and 19 year olds engaged in criminal activity, and the actual death rate of children by firearm is somewhere at or below “chronic lower respiratory disease”.

I massage statistical data for a living. I can spot manipulated data as easily as a dermatologist can spot melanoma on someone in line in front of them at the grocery checkout. 
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Gangbangers? Whew, who needs a dog whistle when you have a bull horn. 
Oh, suicide by any other form then gun take a lot of effort and are painful. They are when someone really wants to die. Suicide by gun are impulsive and can be avoided if there were no guns around[/quote]

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