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No one is saying online learning was super effective for K students. But if parents literally did nothing additional for all of last year, while knowing virtual was ineffective, that’s on them.[/quote]

Perhaps you can come up with things parents could have done or should be doing, to make this all work out?

I have a friend who is a nurse, with 3 kids, 8th grader, 5th grader, and K.  All through the pandemic, she has been working, often long hours.  Her husband works overnight, so that someone is home most of the time, but obviously, in between work, they have to do things like chores and sleeping.  Since dad sleeps during the day, he is unable to supervise anyone.  Oldest kid was in 8th grade.  Self sufficient.   He was responsible for making sure that the K kid was logged on, but that was about the extent of what he could do, because he can't do his schooling and supervise the K kid.  Obviously, the kid learned nothing all last year.  No idea how the little one is doing this year, but I'm assuming that he is among the kids that is behind.[/quote]

They could have worked with the little one every day on the basics.  Zero excuse.  [/quote]

Yeah, sure.  When one parent works 7 - 7, and the other one leaves home at 9 and isn't back until 7 in the morning, that leaves plenty of time to spend teaching the basics to a 5 year old that has spent the day on zoom classes.  [/quote]

Was she working daily? Most nurses who work 7-7 only work 2/3/4 days a week (24/36/48 hrs/wk). More than that (60 hrs/wk) is not often sustainable longer term. [/quote]

Not PP but surely you heard about the shortage of healthcare workers?  I know nurses who have had to take extra shifts.  It's almost like you think more parent healthcare workers should have quit to homeschool their children....until you needed care, of course.  Let me guess, you take SUCH good care of yourself at home that you've ben able to forgo all healthcare the last 18 months?   :roll: [/quote]

Oh stop, I'm a nurse myself but not in the hospital anymore. I'm simply pointing out a typical nurse who works 7-7 in the hospital only works 2-3 days a week, and often at least one of those days is on the weekend. What is the nurse doing the rest of the time? I'm sure many picked up extra shifts but even then, [b]the amount of OT and bonus $$$ would have been insane enough that they could have hired some help, so there's really no excuse.[/b] [/quote]

Zoom tutoring on top of Zoom school sounds super productive and healthy for a 5yo![/quote]

Who said it had to be Zoom?  I know people who found college students to lead pods of students while schools were closed.[/quote]

As a frontline worker, her choice was to NOT create any more exposure to the virus than was absolutely necessary, so no "college students to lead pods of students" in a community of unvaccinated people.  Even assuming that she was willing to take that chance, how does a parent of a Kindergartener even find "pods of students" in your average middle class community?  For the older two kids, they did find ways to 'zoom supplement', but readily admit that it was less than effective.  I only know the 5th grader (who is exceedingly bright) well, and she apparently did not do particularly well in school, despite the tutoring, and the parents spending what available time they have on the older kids.  Mom is SO worried about her.

It is really easy to blame people.  Much more difficult to be a little gracious, and understand that not everyone has the time, the resources, or the savvy to do all the 101 things that you and your friends knew to do, to help the kids out in a pandemic.  Most people are doing the best they can under difficult circumstances.

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I have a friend who is a nurse who was trying to find a nanny to hire during the pandemic because her daycare had closed and several people she tried to hire backed out when they found out she was a nurse because they were worried they might get covid from her, so yeah, it wasn't as easy as some of these posters are imagining--and that's for a person with money to spend on the solution. Imagine being a family where you don't have that kind of financial flexibility and the available childcare hours don't match your working hours (many childcare centers shortened hours because of staffing issues and covid protocols). [/quote]

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