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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Many of those 'lower income white boys' can start earning $20-25+/hr as an apprentice right out of college. Apprentice electricians already make $50k+ per year, which is more than many BS degrees from college earn out of college. During that time you can immediately start contributing to your retirement accounts. By the time a college grad has finished college, they're already 4 years behind in savings compared to the 'lower income white boy' who has been saving for 4+ years. After 4+ years, the apprentice is now well on their way to become a master in their trade, and can be earning $70k and easily over $100k+ with OT. Meanwhile, Suzy and her 'prestigious' college degree haven't even begun to save a dime yet for either their retirement or a home because they are busy paying $400 per month now in student loan debt while they're making a crappy $15-20/hr salary in an entry level job that basically doesn't even require a college degree. Have fun with 10+ years of debt for that worthless degree. Imagine wasting time in college all through 2010-2020. You missed out on the historic bull run of the market during which you could have easily tripled your money. You spent 4 years in college earning $0 (actually negative dollars), then are spending the other half of the decade pissing your money away down the toilet on interest on your student loan debt. Meanwhile, the kid who went to trade school to become an electrician or an elevator repair man earning $70k+ has been saving money for 10 years, has tripled their money on the market, and has zero debt. Oh yeah, and tons of job security because you can't offshore many trade jobs that require a license. [/quote] But this isn't what many are doing. They are are taking low-end service jobs, being regularly unemployed and wandering aimlessly and taking on consumer debt rather than student loan debt. [/quote] +1. PP is an idiot. Their hypothetical rich tradesman is spoken like a 'bootstrap' GOP dipsh*t who with no direct insight. Most men in the trades hate life, their bodies are broken, they are drunks who abuse alcohol and narcotics, their families are trashy and dysfunction. They destroy their bodies slaving away on miserable job sites, inevitably leading to a workplace injury or stroke, while the college educated get the contracts and sit on their *sses in air conditioned offices counting the money. And the dumb "Suzy" characters have make work freeloading office jobs doing basically nothing all day but gossiping and responding to emails for $60,000 $80,000 $100,000 plus a year. The dumbest office "Suzy" I've ever met was making $350,000 a year. Dumb as a brick, a few credentials from degree mills (one of them an online college!) and she's driving a new Tesla with two homes. Let me know how many muh tradesman are doing nothing all day for $350,000 a year.[/quote]
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