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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is how you create an catalyze cycling culture

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And let's not with "the weather is bad here" as if it isn't in the Netherlands as well.[/quote]

Lol. Okay.[/quote]
Why don’t these people just move to the Netherlands? It’s like if I presented a map of Spain of paella restaurant density and complained about why we cannot do that here.

It also confuses me that these people want to emulate the Netherlands and yet are pro-skyscrapers and anti-sprawl. There are no skyscrapers in the Netherlands and the reason that they have these bike lanes is precisely because people are everywhere.

Let’s do this great think that the Dutch do, but let’s not do any of the things that make it great. [/quote]

The reason they have these bike lanes is they decided to be more bike and pedestrian friendly, and to develop towns that didn't need as many cars (say, for internal trips in a small town). This isn't something inherent to the Netherlands. They spent the post-war period removing bike infrastructure to benefit cars, but decided to reverse that in the 1970s in response to overcrowding of cars and several car crash deaths, including of children. The campaign was called "Stop de Kindermoord".[/quote]
The Netherlands have more abundant public land/right of ways and let me repeat myself because this is important, they have more “sprawl” as people like to call it. There are no massive CBDs, as we have in the US or in other parts of Europe.  Promote lower density and more “sprawl”, combined with requirements for land owners to cede right of way and it’s entirely possible. I see no support for any if these preconditions which make the Dutch system practical and feasible.

Being a flat county also massively helps. [/quote]

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